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You just said the same thing I said. BARTRA made the ill-judged tackle. He was left exposed but he still made the mistake. Just like every other Barca CB in the history of tiki-taka. Therefore I don't believe he should be labeled "not good enough" just because of that one mistake. Thankfully...

He makes an ill-judged tackle because of our lackluster RB and he's back on the shit list and the talk of varane being the second coming of maldini comes back. Nobody's perfect. So i'll just leave this here

Thiago also didn't start because he had Xavi, Iniesta and Cesc in front of him. Doesn't mean he didn't have enough potential. Bartra has Mascherano who just played a world cup final and was hands down the best defensive player in the tournament and Pique who is now better than he was when he won...

Our best midfield is Iniesta-Busi-Rakitic and thats the midfield we should always use in big games if we don't wanna be run over and be stuck playing keep ball.

Only loan that worked in recent memory was Rafinha and he played for someone vying to be Barca's coach.

We can basically say Bartra has already made it, he only improves and I would be incredibly surprised if he was sold now. Rafinha has the comfy status of being Lucho's golden boy so as long as he's here and if he can work on his positional awareness his chances even with a coach change are good...

Okay great I thought the pessimism might have reached an all time high. :lol:

It might be better not to Start Masche, I think we'll survive, or atleast score a goal or two to keep us in the game and maybe Pedro over Suarez

Bartra probably wouldn't work in a 4-3-3 but if Pedro was on the RW he could be a great RCB, with the way Alves plays him/Pique basicaly play that role already anyway.

So now even Samper is on the shit list? :lol: I hope we win the CL this season cause our future is looking bleak according to you guys.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand We're back in the league.

Sad to say but doesn't Bartra have more assists? Even as a cb.

All the talent in the world, Imagine him Neymar and lucas in front of Countinho and Oscar? We'll never know probably though.

The game against Man city honestly was not due to messi, without him we may have scored less goals, but we also wouldn't have conceded. The collective performance of the team was why we got that win.

I think Busi is getting better actually, his distribution has been improving this season.

Pique took one in Euro 2012 and buried it i believe

Iniesta and Busi can handle Yaya and silva just fine. We'll win tidily, I honestly don't expect them to score, the only way I see them scoring is sloppy turn overs from Messi and Busi and others (Thats usually how people score on us nowadays).

I'll take the missed penalties if he keeps playing like he has been. We've reached the point where we're scoring enough that missed penalties aren't hurting us and thats amazing considering our season last year.

Don't tell them :lol: I remember him holding Iniesta around the neck trying to get the ball off of him and still failing.

When he plays with Rakitic he's mostly just controlling the pace and holding down the midfield, looks more like a DM then busi sometimes, I think if he brought some attacking play (I think if neymar was fresh we would've seen it more this game) we'd be golden honestly with that midfield trident.