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Or Giggs who for some reason is never mentioned despite being even worse than Terry. And how does a punchable face make someone unlikeable?

Watch our second goal again then. Benatia needlessly steps out of the defensive line and leaves massive space for Suarez. Start @ 0:35 to see how he tries to press (?) Messi who wins the header from Schweinsteiger. If he stays with Suarez nothing happens from that situation. eGQkgFJ7Qtg#t=0m35s...

I meant they could be the best in a few years when Silva ends his career, starts to decline or similar. Especially Varane who has incredible talent. Pique could as well of course. As for Bartra for instance, I don't think he'll ever genuinely challenge for the best defender in the world. But I...

Neymar and Messi definitely need to pass more to Suarez.

How do you expect him to have a good game when Bayern exploit his biggest weakness, which is aerial ability? Throw in long balls to Lewandowski in the middle who is simply a beast at holding the ball up. Wait for Real to do the same in the final, like they always do in Clasicos. Mascherano gets...

Or you could say if he really was that good, he would've been a starter for long. Quality always wins in the end but sadly he's not better than Mathieu or Mascherano. I can easily see him be the best for the next 2 or 3 years still. There's simply no one near him. Maybe Varane or Boateng. I...

He's extremely humble, a team player and one of the most intelligent footballers in the world. What's there not to like about him? :worthy:

Bartra is most overrated player in this forum. Every CB right now has some flaws except Thiago Silva so it's a bit futile atm. Rather spend 100M on him tbh. :coffee:

Have to agree with dalitis there. lolworthy statement from Beckenbauer, but then again he always likes to spout out some bs.

Yeah that might be true, which is why I wanted an additional player alongside him anyway. Like Kovacic, Tielemans or O. Torres. Just imagine, for 100M that we're likely to spend on Pogba alone, we could as well buy Gündogan and O. Torres / Kovacic / Tielemans and still have 50M to spare for a...

Well they lost against United and couldn't win against Chelsea and City. So no home win vs top 4 at home.

"just back" lol. That injury thing plus him being allegedly much worse than pre-injury is the lamest argument ever. It's the same thing as making him the only one responsible for Dortmund's downfall, ignoring the fact that his teammates have changed over the years, from prime Hummels, Subotic...

Rakitic was a 20M transfer, hence less pressure. Why do we have to pay 100M for a midfielder whose skillset is fairly similar to Rakitic? Especially when there are a lot of better players for us (not necessarily in terms of individual quality) and some are even more established in world...

It's funny. Many don't want Gündogan because of "injury proneness" but would take Thiago who is much more prone to injury plus a traitor. wtf

1. Be Thiago Silva 2. ??? 3. Still get scored on Tbh without Boateng falling that way, the goal would probably be only half as amazing.

Pedro is easily worth 20 (imo even more). And yeah, if no one's offering us that much, we must keep him. Simple. Hate it how Barcelona always undervalue their players. Madrid get 20M for Morata, 15M for Albiol etc, and Pedro is not worth 20M? lol

And only one of them is world class... One is injured 24/7, the other the most overhyped CB in Barcaforum, one who is on the wrong side of 30 and a player who isn't even a CB (although performs better than in his preferred position :rolleyes:). lol Gündogan Fabinho CB (not sure who) Koke / O...

No, but you imply it anyway... Just by saying you don't want to talk about this matter, you actually say something about it. If you really prefered to not take any stand you would've said nothing. Now you piqued my interest as of why you think Robben is better than Messi.

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Well, what do you expect from Maradona? :mou: