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  1. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    Count how many times you said you're leaving and you're still here. Go make a MOTM forum trophy so you can give it to your Messi doll. Is there nobody in the Messi thread?
  2. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    In the game of football, the object of the game is to score more goals than the opposition. If you score more goals your team wins the game and gets points or advances in a tournament. If your team has the most points at the end of a season or wins a tournament then they get a trophy. Like I...
  3. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    If both players didn't win anything, I'll take the one that scored more goals. So if Messi han't won anything last year, I would say Ronaldo had a better season. Just like you will see that if Ronaldo wins the CL this year, he will get the Ballon d'or. Even if Messi scores 20 goals in the next...
  4. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    You're asking for a lot of hypotheticals. In your senario, did Messi play for Real and win nothing? Because if he did then it's a slam dunk for CR7. Your whole senario is a complete joke, because you're making up things that are not real. Like Ronaldo playing for Barca. Try to keep your...
  5. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    "Suarez is the sort of player who can make the difference with his movement," the ex-Bulgaria star told Sport. "You don't just get that from training, but also from playing with players who understand each other. He has an understanding with his team-mates just like I had an understanding with...
  6. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    Forget Titles? Isn't that the purpose of football? If you just want to judge things subjectively and artistically go watch gymnastics or ballet. I cannot and will not forget about the titles because we are talking about football. Even if Suarez scored 100 goals this season, HE would tell you...
  7. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    No. Messi's was better because of the trophies won by the team. CR didn't win anything. The bottom line is this is a team sport and the results of the team are the most important thing. That's down to numbers as well Messi-5, CR-0. I also think Messi shouldn't have been MVP of the last World Cup.
  8. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    Pre-assists are statistics that are also tracked. From Barcelona.com for this season: Messi - 85 Suarez - 66 Messi has 19 more, yet if you and others say he's the only playmaker on the team, shouldn't the difference be much greater? And if you're going to value pre-assists more than actual...
  9. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    You can make all the plays you want, but if they're not producing goals, then what's the point? Isn't the purpose of playmaking to produce goals? So the effectiveness of the playmaking should be measured by the goals it produces.
  10. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    BTW, most players dive when they have already lost the ball. They're trying to get it back with a foul call.
  11. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    Then why are Atletico playing today while we are not?
  12. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    I (and the sport of football) measure results by goals scored. How they are scored does not affect the result or the measurement. Every goal has the same value in determining the result of a game. MSN reached there level because of the understanding between all three players. The run to latch on...
  13. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    And if Messi would have shown up we wouldn't be out.
  14. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    YOU are the one who started talking about CR7. No they haven't missed more chances than Messi. Suarez has a better conversion rate than Messi. That is a FACT. You saying that Suarez has missed more is FACTUALLY wrong.
  15. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    I am backing Suarez season here and I have never once voted in a MOTM thread. Not here or anywhere. If Messi doesn't care about scoring goals, then maybe it's time to retire. And if Messi does all the playmaking then why does he only have 19 assists, he should have over 70 if that were the case.
  16. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    ** We are watching the same games, but you are watching only one player on the team, everyone else is irrelevant to you.
  17. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    ... so Messi never has any games where he pads his stats? He scores one and then stops scoring? Taking away the number of goals scored in a game, Messi has scored in 28 games this season, Suarez has scored in 32 games this season. How is 28>32? Is it like the golden boot? When Messi scores in a...
  18. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    I never said you hate anyone. You just like Messi more. Just look at your avatar and the fact that you used to call yourself Mehssi. I don't blame you for liking Messi more. And I'm not saying that Messi hasn't been the face of Barca for the past 10 years. All I'm saying is that this season...
  19. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    Goals, assists, shots taken, and other statistics are FACTS, not opinions. The opinions should be derived from the factual statistics, but people let their biases affect their opinions. There's a prevailing opinion here that Suarez has missed countless sitters, and gives the ball away easily...
  20. J

    9 - Luis Suárez - v1

    Yes. The MOTM thread is a true gauge of this season's MVP. The popularity contest where Macherano and Messi are voted MOTM by some in a game where Suarez scores four goals and has three assists (something never before done in LIGA). Suarez will never win a popularity contest. His ears are too...

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