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I think bartra will only leave if Barca buy a new CB. Neither Bartra, nor Mascherano are good enough to play the big games though. The reason why Bartra hasn't been sent on loan is probably cause barca might just stick with Bartra is they can't sign a good defender.

There is nothing we can do. Players like Xavi or Iniesta took a while to develop into players who could be starters. It's not good for young players to lack playing time.

Not officially but it should be announced soon.

I'd love to see a Europe vs South America game.... but everyone taking it seriously.

he's gota good point to think that, but Pele is considered top 3 by many and he pretty much built his career playing for one team.

wasn't that the whole point of my first statement? They both scored the same amount of goals in the same number of games . Can you at least provide a link for those statistics you are talking about? Although I feel they are irrelevant, I'd like to know if you have them or you are just full of it.

Lol lalas still hooked on that herb? :p Jk! He's entitled to his opinion.

I don't understand what being assisted or whether you created your own goal opportunities have to do with the fact that both Cristiano and Messi have scored the same number of goals in the same number of games( but I deff would like a link where I can see the statistics you are giving me). Also...

Genius! :worthy: Finally someone using evidence!

This is where barca scouts should be watching players 9but of course, they won't they rather let marquinos go for 5 a year ago and now they would need to pay 25-30 millions). South America once again showing the world how it's done. Brazil beats spain and now Uruguay beats spain. :yes:

yes, i guess you are right. Maybe after next season we will really be able to judge him better. I guess only messi can boast of being such amazing player at a very young age :p cristiano was signed by united at age 18 I believe but it wasn't until he was 21 that he actually became one of the...

as you said, the talent is there, but he needs to improve alot. I don't think deulofeu will be a player that will shine at a young age at the professional level, i think it will take him a while until he actually becomes a top player ( if he ever does). he's is not Messi or Cristiano ronaldo...

ok, let's go for parts. You claim that Messi has a better goal ratio against madrid than Cristiano against Barcelona ( which might be true.. links please?) but I don't think that's the best way to judge these players. For Instance, Since Cristiano arrived in 2009, 18 clasicos have been played (...

oh my fault ;) Since you got most of the things in your comment "right,' I thought it was directed towards me. :lol:

^ what he said. Plus, his father also refused to talk about Thiago leaving for united when he recently accompany Rafinha (Thiago's brother) to sign his contract. But to me the best information comes from Sport and Mundo deportivo. I have come to trust them when it comes to semiofficial matters.

Don't believe all 'news." Remember, some rumors were saying Barca had paid 120 millions for neymar while others were lying telling us of how it was only 30? The funny thing is that most people here actually believed it would be 30 and got mad when i suggested it was 60 as sport and mundo...

:lol: that's so true! And Cesc was actually a player who had done a lot of things for Arsenal. Poor Arsenal fans.

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:452: you will never hear me call Cristiano Ronaldo "Ronaldo." There is only one Ronaldo, the rest? They are just copies. On and by the way, Messi has an average of 2 goals per season against madrid, whereas Cristiano has an average of 3 goals per season against Barcelona. Should we trust...

I never said Messi's vision and passing were average, I've said that that's what separates Messi from any other top scorer in the world. Messi disappears in big games? He has is some games , but I don't of any great player who hasn't . The rest? You got that right