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that's not messi standards though. The question is, did Messi shine? No. Did he score? no. There are no excuses. Saying that Messi was Barca's best player is just another excuse. Because he might have been barca's best but barca's best that night was not good enough. Another thing, messi has...

I said he shouldn't start right now and maybe for a couple more seasons. ( i think that he shouldn't start right now most people agree on, but that he shouldn't start for a couple seasons is my opinion). i just don't see him ready now or even for a couple seasons. he needs to improve alot. But...

i think people haven't agreed on what an excuse is vs what a reason is. When you give excuses, it means that you could have done something but you just didn't do it. when you give a reason, something beyond your power or out of your control didn't allow you to take certain action. If Messi...

I have watched a lot of barca B games. And this is not the first game I have seen from him in this tournament. I think he has talent, but not enough talent to start for Barca at this moment. There aren't many players in the world talented enough to start for such a team as barca at such young...

you can't keep a player who doesn't want to be here. No one can promise Thiago that he will be a starter here. I'm actually amazed Manchester are offering him a spot as a starter. I don't know of many (actually any) club that can promise a player that he will be a starter. I don't see him going...

Of course my prediction is not accurate and could never even come to pass. But as of right now, today, that's the way i see it.

According to Bartomeu, one of barca's directors, Thiago has not told them he wants to leave (maybe b.c he's on vacation and hasn't spoken to them yet). I think he wants to agree everything with united first and then he will announce the club he's leaving. There is no doubt in anyone's mind (...

I knew some would bring this up, and i completely agree. Every fanboy hypes their player but once the hype is stripped away, reality shows up. This is the case with Messi too.

you guys have a press conference scheduled for friday? have no doubts he will be announced then. I don't see why a simple clause should take that long to be figured out.

thanks for the link mate!

who's gonna dance samba now? :alveshat: I don't think Alves should leave until Neymar feels comfortable and gets used to La liga.

Now that's funny! :VdB:

what match? it's today? isn't Neymar playing too?

took the words out of my mouth!

no matter how good a player is, there can still be hype added to it. Messi has been the best player for a while, but sometimes fanboys just exaggerate. I hate it when Messi plays bad against milan (away) or madrid ( some of the latest clasicos) and people make excuses for him not performing well...

To me, Messi is the best player today ( although Cristiano is not really that far) but there is too much hype surrounding the player. For instance, When Messi plays a bad game, ppl make excuses as to why he played a bad game, fanboys can never accept that Messi is not as good as they think or...

Barca , why?

Not good enoguh for Barca's first team. Should deff be loaned. I honestly don't see him being talented enough to start for Barca any time soon. Maybe in 4 years. Needs to learn and grow a lot!

Undeserved win for spain. They deff didn't deserve to win. Unlucky Mexico. Delofeu should deff be loaned, there is no way he could start for Barca...maybe in 3 years.

I don't buy into all the Messi hype ( I don't think he's the best ever like many claim) but to be fair, messi has been the only threat in attack for barca for the last and the season before that. It's impossible for Messi not to be owned by defenders (Verane, Nesta, Ramos, Pepe) when he's pretty...