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But that's a prediction, not a statement of fact or an assessment of their current standing. Obviously Messi is ahead of him now. My point is that Mbappe has a lot of time to break all WC scoring records and win at least another WC, something only an injury that makes him miss the tournament...

Minimizing his skill set and chalking up his abilities to just speed, questioning the quality of his goals (the usual "tap in " argument), cherry picking samples to reveal some supposed inability to step up in " big games". You know, the usual. You can also see it in how his WC final...

Well it works both ways. Some of the bad faith and nitpicky arguments that Messi fans use to undermine Mbappe are reminiscent of the tactics that CR and Messi fanboys have used over the years. There is a reason why this place has by far the most negative attitude towards him. Messi fans have...

Well , I'm French. :lol: This time my bias has nothing to do with Ronaldo or Madrid.

Didn't say he was, but he wasn't a ghost.

I'm not so sure about this. I think if you were asked to make your own team from Mbapp? and Messi's teammates, the only France players that would make your list would be the CBs and maybe Tchouam?ni.

He wasn't a ghost against Morocco. He was the only offensive threat in the second half and created the second goal. This "invisible for 80 minutes " argument has got to be one of the weirdest talking points I've seen coming out of this final. Apparently if your team gets dominated for over an...

It's not just a second goal, it's a world class finish that drags his team back into a freaking world cup final. No amount of asterisks or caveats you can add to it will minimize it. It's also not a given that he had a better team. Nobody here rates the likes of Giroud, Thuram, Kolo Muani...

He outscored Messi and lost on penalties. I don't think anyone will remember this as someone getting the better of him.

Some of these posts look straight out of a parallel universe. Messi and Ronaldo were non-entities on the World Cup stage at his age, and it's not like they had bad teams around them. It took Messi until his fifth world cup to finally decide WC knockout stage games, something Mbappe has done at...

It's as if fanboys are extremely biased or something :lol: Conversely, Messi fans are shitting on CR7 using some of the same talking points that other people have used to shit on both CR and Messi. Mainly the lack of goals and assists in the WC knockout stages. Messi fans used to adamantly...

It's not like Messi's WC knockout stats were that much better. Until this WC where Messi clearly stepped up and pulled ahead, his WC stats were pretty abysmal for someone of his stature.

One of the GOATs for sure.

But he's indeed a bit of a let down in big matches. If you look at Bayern's decisive moments during his time there, he was hardly a factor in any of them.

This needs context. He also attempts more dribbles than anyone in the league, by quite a margin.

What does this even mean? what made the competition this year any less worthy than previous years? Are the likes of Salah, De Bruyne, Lewandowski, and Mane irrelevant scrubs all of a sudden? Just a few years ago you would've probably ranked all of them above Benzema.

Why would Simeone's opinion of Ronaldo help me sleep at night? lol I'm simply stating the FACT that Simeone seems to prefer him over Messi. So I doubt he actually "hates" him like the previous poster claimed and I'm sure he would've loved to have him a few years ago...

Yet in leaked conversations he said he'd rather have him than Messi lol

I think skill wise he's up there with some of the other greats who won it. The issue IMO is that for most football fans, his reputation is a bit tainted for being a "meme footballer" for years. I think people are just unable to accept the player who used to miss open goals on a frequent basis...

He probably isn't. I'll be back to scoring a respectable amount of goals for his age and you'll be back to whining about how headers and "tap ins" aren't really goals..or something lol