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Yup. In La Liga they'd be challenging for the title. Imagine being told in 2012 that one day West Ham fans would be praying to draw Barca in a European tie while Barca fans would pray to avoid that draw. Unreal stuff.

West Ham fans are hoping they draw us. Surreal.

Was finished in 2012, Lucho managed to get one last hurrah out of him in 2015.

Bosingwa laughing after getting relegated vibes

lmao we're gonna lose the Europa League to West Ham. Stunning.

Also the mental fragility of the players. I don't care if Valverde was League Two level, you don't bottle like that. Even if you have a literal traffic cone on the bench.

Feels more to me like everyone in Germany hates their guts but no one else minds them too much. At least not as much as most of the other big name clubs.

Now that you mention it, Arsenal probably are better than us right now. Never thought I'd see the day.

Bayern should gift us a win to eliminate the tougher team from the competition

Lucho's the only one who got him to perform above Chinese league level. At least for a while.

Lucho is the only reason this guy wasn't in China by 27.

We got wrecked by AC Milan (:lol:) long before that and it didn't stop the team from bullying the Mallorcas of the world. Some of the old guard had declined mentally by then too. Namely Pique and Busquets. Especially Pique, Pep thought he was done but Lucho (GOD) managed to give him one last...

12/13 is when Barca became mental midgets. Crazy how they were able to bully the Getafes and Mallorcas week in week out but get demolished in every big game. That 4-0 to Bayern left me speechless. Never seen a season like that, from any club. That team should have been right up there with...

Not the point.

I really don't understand this obsession people have with "objective criteria" for an inherently subjective award. Like that dumb debate over "well Ronaldo scored more goals so he should have won in 2011 but Messi won it because he had more trophies so CR should have won it in 2012." That's...

Well dawgs, it's been a fun ride #XaviOut

Pique, Alba, Busquets I think it's time dawgs #XaviOut

I don't think there should be a "criteria" per se. It's an award for the best player in the world, which is inherently subjective. If you try to award it based on some "objective" criteria then you'd have to give it to Drogba in 2012 for winning the CL or to Mario Gomez for scoring 753 tap ins...

Yes.

Yeah, it would have been ideal if someone else took care of clearing out the remaining seniors before Xavi came in.