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They also didn't beat us 7-0. They beat us 4-0 and 3-0. Two games where we only had one senior centreback amongst a whole host of other issues. If the teams meet this year the games are going to be very close.

He's played 3 full league games out of 8 which is the best you can expect when Busi is your competiton. He's missed out on the Champions League games so far but I expect he will also get a lot of minutes on the Copa.

1. Barca 2. Bayern 3. Atletico 4. Dortmund 5. Arsenal I suspect Dortmund could beat Arsenal, but the good thing is we'll find out for sure the next two Champions League rounds. The Spanish/German rivalry in the Champions League would be very interesting.

Tata's change in tactics have mitigated a lot of his weaknesses anyway.

Mascherano is a CB.

This season Barca have played 12 games, conceded only 7 goals and kept 7 clean sheets. The defenders are doing just fine so far.

His numbers show that these past two seasons his spg has increased 10-20% compared to the previous two seasons. It also doesn't show the plays where he didn't shoot. With the increase in marking he's had to endure it may well be that he gets less shots relative to the amount of possession he...

Actually those statistics seem to show a significant decline in the other forwards. Ibra and Villa were well over 3 spg but the past two seasons the other forwards are all well below 2. Do you also have the stats for Eto'o and Henry(and Bojan too I guess)?

Do you have the stats for the other forwards? That would show better what the rest are doing...

Not just Mou but Ozil too. The midfield is the core to a team and Madrid sold their one world class midfielder. The rest have a lot to prove. Alonso is getting old and injured at the moment. Modric seems to be a passenger more often than not. I'm also not convinced about Isco who instead of...

Alexis looked like a world class player today. He's had a couple of games now where he's played with increased intensity and confidence but today he took it to another level. He was taking more responsibility and making himself available to receive passes. He also looked likely to make things...

If Bartra can maintain his progress then there's a good chance we won't buy a defender in the summer...

No they didn't come out attacking. They played on the counter. When they got the ball(usually quite high up) they then did attack and got a few bodies forward, but their starting point and priority was stopping Barca playing through them. The tactics they used wouldn't work now against Tata's...

Puyol has missed the first quarter of the season. Now with Bartra at least showing he is competent we have 4 usable CBs so Tata can rotate intelligently to reduce injury risks.

Pique fishing for a booty call? :lol:

Against Celtic not just Neymar but Cesc also got more in his way than Messi would. He did have a slow start to the season though, hopefully he gets back into top form in time for the Clasico.

Not going to happen. He's seems pretty useless on the right and there's no way he gets to start ahead of Neymar on the left.

You can blame Tata.

Pique: "Bartra can play at Barça for the coming ten years." #fcblive Oh yeah, looks like all the posters who said we won't get a new CB next summer either are proven right. Maybe Rosell can troll Perez and use the money on outbidding him for the striker they are inevitibly going to want.

Alexis - Added that extra bit of quality that won us the match so gets MOTM for me. Neymar Bartra