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can Valverde survive this disaster?

sub 3 players at halftime, we desperately need Messi. In addition, Arthur and Fati?

is it just me or has Messi bulked up a little, I mean worked on upper body and core strength? He was tackled several times by Dortmund without losing his balance, did not even come close to falling. Maybe the referee would have a given a couple of fouls if he had fallen ...

Hummels was everywhere - even close to scoring. He can still run and still has a lot of stamina. However, I think he should have had a yellow when he attacked MAtS, also tackled Messi quite hard a few times.

Rakitic was not bad, Roberto was ok as well. Dortmund is a difficult place.

let's stay calm - a draw in Dortmund is acceptable. Arthur was our best midfuelder. MAtS saved us. Referee did not help us - yellow card to Rakitic was definitely overkill. Messi was rusty, as expected, but still had a positive impact. Suarez had a tough day. Griezmann working hard, a little...

MAtS Arthur Piqué

FDJ Fati Griezmann HM Suarez, Arthur, Piqué

What is it with Griezmann when he travels to the Basque country? 2 games there and 2 disappointing performances. He should be able to avoid offsides - today he was worse than Suarez in that respect.

If you pick a Liverpool player it should be Alisson Becker, not VVD. He kept clean sheets in CL Semifinal at home (at Anfield against Barça) and in the Final against Tottenham. He further won the Copa America with Brazil. He denied Messi, could be named Messi's "Nemesis" both in 2018 (Roma GK)...

Arthur Fati Perez

Don't forget the GK, A. Becker. I think he was more important for Liverpool in both the Semifinal win at Anfield and in the Final. Without him Barça would have scored at least one goal at Anfield.

not only at Anfield - Vidal was perhaps Barça's top player in the matches following the Anfield disaster. He refused to be demoralized. His weakness is being over-aggressive at times, he causes fouls and yellow cards too frequently. Overall he is a valuable asset that can come off the bench and...

Griezmann (scored and assisted - both teams) Roberto Alba HM Perez, Rafinha, DeJong, Lenglet

Very promising debut - seems to better at keeping the ball than Dembélé

played nice through balls but no longer able to keep up with quick counters.

I felt sorry for him that he did not score.

add ter Stegen to the "Combo". First goal at Anfield he did a "deGea save" and the 4th goal ... - let's not mention it!

Difficult to forgive him for what he did at Anfield, he started the whole disastrous evening with his back pass! Also, it's too easy to run by him lately and cross the ball. His misunderstandings with Griezmann last week were amazing - hard to understand.

the Bilbao goal can be blamed 1/3 on MAtS (kicked ball into the stands), 1/3 Alba (conceded Cross) and 1/3 to whoever was supposed to mark Aduritz. Alena should have continued instead of Roberto. Inexplicable dysfunction between Alba and Griezmann - Valverde to be blamed? Griezmann was booed by...