10 - Lionel Messi - v1

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jiopi

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Somebody should show this to Sid Lowe, there is no way in hell CR7 were better than Messi in La Liga. Only if it's requirement to be in the winning team.

Messi & Cronaldo La Liga 2011-2012

Goals:

Messi 50 (10 penalty)
Cronaldo 46 (12 penalty)

Accuracy:

Messi 5.5 shots/ goal
Cronaldo 6.9 shots/ goal

Individuality of goals:

Messi, 22/50 or 44% were directly assisted (no involvement in buildup play)
Cronaldo, 35/46 or 80% were directly assisted (no involvement in buildup play)

Assists:

Messi 20
Cronaldo 12

Creativity:

Messi 56 throughballs, 92 key passes (resulting in a shot)
Cronaldo 19 throughballs, 60 key passes (resulting in a shot)

Build up play:

Messi 176 dribbless
Cronaldo 73 dribbless

Lost posession:

Messi 96 dispossessed + 61 turnovers = 157 times
Cronaldo 79 dispossessed + 86 turnovers = 165 times

MoM (whoscored.com)

Messi 24
Cronaldo 15

Importance of stats:

Here is La Liga 11-12 without Messi's and Cronaldo's goals, and assists:

MessiCronoLaLiga.png


http://king-football.com/bb/?p=431

Messi got points for the team in 15 games, 35 overall.
Cronaldo got points for the team in 11 games, 25 overall.
 
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Frejsgodes

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Somebody should show this to Sid Lowe, there is no way in hell CR7 were better than Messi in La Liga. Only if it's requirement to be in the winning team.

Messi & Cronaldo La Liga 2011-2012

Goals:

Messi 50 (10 penalty)
Cronaldo 46 (12 penalty)

Accuracy:

Messi 5.5 shots/ goal
Cronaldo 6.9 shots/ goal

Individuality of goals:

Messi, 22/50 or 44% were directly assisted (no involvement in buildup play)
Cronaldo, 35/46 or 80% were directly assisted (no involvement in buildup play)

Assists:

Messi 20
Cronaldo 12

Creativity:

Messi 56 throughballs, 92 key passes (resulting in a shot)
Cronaldo 19 throughballs, 60 key passes (resulting in a shot)

Build up play:

Messi 176 dribbless
Cronaldo 73 dribbless

Lost posession:

Messi 96 dispossessed + 61 turnovers = 157 times
Cronaldo 79 dispossessed + 86 turnovers = 165 times

MoM (whoscored.com)

Messi 24
Cronaldo 15

Importance of stats:

Here is La Liga 11-12 without Messi's and Cronaldo's goals, and assists:

MessiCronoLaLiga.png


http://king-football.com/bb/?p=431

Messi got points for the team in 15 games, 35 overall.
Cronaldo got points for the team in 11 games, 25 overall.
Cold, hard facts right there.
 

mixer

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Messi scored this season the most goals (14) and gave the most assists (5) in the Champions League.

Ronaldo, who?
 

Ender

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"and it was Ronaldo, more than anyone else, who dragged them to it"

I lost a lot of respect for Sid. As jiopi's chart shows, Real Madrid would have won the league just fine without Cristiano. It was a team effort that led them to a title, not one man. On the other hand, for Barcelona it was Messi who legitimately carried the team. That shouldn't be the case normally (such dependency on one player), but alas he stepped up when others were otherwise incapable. It's ridiculous to award someone the best player simply because his team possesses the title. You might as well change the title to most decorated than best player, as you are clearly mesmerized by the shiny silverware than the cold, hard facts.
 
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Yannick03

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I'm beginning to think the media is starting an PR-campaign to award C.Ronaldo the Ballon d'Or. Mourinho started it already a few weeks ago. I'm sorry but 73 goals and thirty or so assists in one season breaking an 40 year-old record, How can Messi not get the Ballon d'Or. Real Madrid scored the most goals in La Liga, normally it should be C.Ronalod who has the most goals and most assists. But no, because he has a huge ego, people automatically think he is the best.
I am always genuinely surprised and stunned that C.Ronaldo is compared with Messi, it is something I just cannot understand.
 

mixer

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Kanoute (ex-Sevilla): "Messi is not human; he's from another planet. He does things that only he's capable of doing. He's incredible" [fifa]
 

mixer

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Kanoute: "In the same way that there’s Barcelona and the rest of the world, there is also Messi and the rest of the Barça players." [fifa]
 

mixer

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Messi: "Every year I try to get better and to keep on learning. I sure still have a lot of things left to improve."
Messi: "World record of 73 goals this season? Very happy about the season, to score so much, just a shame we were eliminated in the CL."
Messi: "Pep's exit surprised me. We're sad, we didn't expect it. They were four very beautiful years. A new stage starts now.
 
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