10 - Lionel Messi - v2

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Deco 20

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For once this thread is actually interesting :D
That may be true but the thing with messi is he's probably not even on the same level intellectually. Yes he makes genius runs, passes etc but I can guarantee you he has the IQ of a carrot. This isn't necessarily a bad thing though since it keeps him humble and away from the spotlight which is why he's been able to dominate the game more effectively than anyone before.

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Only players that come close to Messi are Xavi and Iniesta.

Well said
 
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yahudi

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“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
 

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
I don't see any proof to the contrary.

I don't get how you can say that he's stupid just because he doesn't have doctorates or say the things you'd like him to say in a press conference. Knowing math, history, and other school subjects is KNOWLEDGE, not intelligence. Intelligence is the ability to process and understand things easily and then apply it.

Just because your definition of a "smart person" is one who can wave an impressive transcript in your face doesn't mean that Messi is stupid. He's not going to be the smartest person in the world obviously, but he's not a dull idiot. I'd say he's well above average.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
Sounds a lot like bitterness & envy, weighing in on Leo's intellect - how anyone could have any clue as to what his intelligence might be is beyond me and there are quite a few below average IQ forum members already

Always something new from some of you to dump in the Messi thread :shakeshead:
 

Elite-BkD

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Seems quite likely that he'd be good at math imo. Other than that..innate intelligence and success in school have a different relationship from person to person. Bit premature to conclude he's thick before you ever lay eyes on him, never mind have a conversation or two.
It is annoying how often he's hailed as a genius though, and often for simple things such as a nice pass/dribble/shot. Perhaps Xavi is a bona fide genius in the middle of the park, but Messi..
 
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Flavia

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Sounds a lot like bitterness & envy, weighing in on Leo's intellect - how anyone could have any clue as to what his intelligence might be is beyond me and there are quite a few below average IQ forum members already

Always something new from some of you to dump in the Messi thread :shakeshead:

You realize people are running out of things to talk about Messi, when they start talking about his intellect :p
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
I agree, he has a natural instinct that puts him above pretty much everyone else on the pitch. You can claim that that's intelligence on it's own but then you're going into a whole science about the meaning of intelligence. My point is that he quite simply is not, no matter how much people wish he was.

How can you claim he is not intelligent while acknowledging the definition of "intelligent" is suject to debate? Are you saying your understanding of someone being intelligent (or not) is the correct understanding?

And based on what are people claiming Messi is not intelligent? Just because he sounds "dopey"? Just because he always talks about soccer and his family? Just because he is allegedly not at math?

This is getting ridiculous!
 
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footyfan

Calma, calma
It is annoying how often he's hailed as a genius though, and often for simple things such as a nice pass/dribble/shot.

True. The word genius is used too much in general and especially for Messi. There are times when he places it perfectly in the top corner and gets hailed as a genius. That's not genius, that's talent/skill and practice.

I think it's just the case of commentators not finding the right noun/adjective in the moment. Running out of words to describe Messi. Should follow Pep's advice.
 
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tariqo

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its gonna be messi + iniesta + a player from bayern or dortmund for the ballon d oro
 
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