10 - Lionel Messi - V6
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may be this will make him start making off the ball movements on pitch
LordLichtenstein
New member
Amen.
FCB1987
Banned
I forget where I saw the comment but I remember reading something interesting about how Messi's game is becoming more suited for beating the lesser teams than dominating big matches. In the big matches, it's impossible for a team (other than Pep's barca) to completely dominate the midfield enough to supply the forwards with constant perfect service into feet with space. As a result, pace and off the ball movement (two things Messi is starting to lose) become a lot more important.
Against 80% of teams in La Liga, this doesn't really matter though because our midfield is dominant and we have so much possession around the box that Messi will still get enough space and enough of the ball to do his stuff. But in the big matches, I don't think Messi playing this static #10 type role in a 442 works very well. We should either play 433 with him upfront through the middle or as that right inside forward type player where he did so well in 2015.
Against 80% of teams in La Liga, this doesn't really matter though because our midfield is dominant and we have so much possession around the box that Messi will still get enough space and enough of the ball to do his stuff. But in the big matches, I don't think Messi playing this static #10 type role in a 442 works very well. We should either play 433 with him upfront through the middle or as that right inside forward type player where he did so well in 2015.
FCBfan22
Senior Member
https://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/news/2018-2019/training-08-08-18
Already shitting on his own teammates in training. Brilliant goal and assist for Dembouz.
It seems that Ernie is practicing 4-3-3. The team in red bibs had Munir-Messi-Dembele front line.
Already shitting on his own teammates in training. Brilliant goal and assist for Dembouz.
It seems that Ernie is practicing 4-3-3. The team in red bibs had Munir-Messi-Dembele front line.
te amo barca
Blaugrana al vent
Messi is 31 and Copa is as irrelevant as it gets. He should not play any games in that competition at least until the semis unless we get RM or Atletico before that. All the other La Liga teams Barca should be able to beat without him.
ebc_99
Active member
Shows what a joke the Balon D'Or has become, none of those players above him had a seasonclose to Messi's. leo should have 10 by now.
Life ain't fair. What else is new?
Should be at calm with oneself and just appreciate what you we are witnessing and stop obsessing with propaganda and ignorance that is largely fueled by semi-retaded people from States, Africa and Asia who don't know shit about football
FCB1987
Banned
If the Ballon d'or was given to the best player regardless of trophies, I would say
2007: Ronaldo
2008: Ronaldo
2009-2012: Messi
2013: Ronaldo
2014: Ronaldo
2015-2017: Messi
2018: Messi/Ronaldo/Salah depending on who starts best next season
1. Ballon D'or is calendar year, not season
2. The award has never simply gone to the "best" player as seen by Ronaldo in 2002 or Cannavaro in 2006. Trophies and big game performances are massive factors.
2007: Ronaldo
2008: Ronaldo
2009-2012: Messi
2013: Ronaldo
2014: Ronaldo
2015-2017: Messi
2018: Messi/Ronaldo/Salah depending on who starts best next season
1. Ballon D'or is calendar year, not season
2. The award has never simply gone to the "best" player as seen by Ronaldo in 2002 or Cannavaro in 2006. Trophies and big game performances are massive factors.
Ursegor
World Champion
I'm not butthurt like most regarding Ronaldo ("Marcelo/Isco/Ramos/random Madrid player other than Ronaldo should win the Ballon d'Or") but he really sucked in La Liga, in the Copa, crashed out in the WC in the group stages and was invisible in both CL semis as well as the final. He's getting a Ballon d'Or for a single goal in Turin.
Joan
Well-known member
Crashed out of the WC right after group stages vs. Uruguay. The point stands, though. Feel this might be his least deserved Ballon d'Or. Looking at odds... it's interesting the WC didn't influence his position at all.
God Serena
New member
Ronaldo is a pure hype machine at this point. If Messi doesn't have a standout year that makes him the clear winner, CR7 is the winner by default. Maybe him going to Juve will help cool that down, though.
KingLeo10
Senior Member
yup. bale scored an equally impressive overhead kick in the CL final and added another long range goal in the same game. but not a single word about that. His 16/17 ballon d'or was more than deserved but the other one for 15/16 was also farcical. dude didn't even score in the CL final v atletico or play in the euro final.
They really should look beyond messi and CR7 for these awards now and base it on season performances. Messi is clearly below his peak level since 14/15 and CR7 only shows for a handful of games each year.
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