11 - Neymar Jr. - v4

[BBZ8800]

I don't get it... we played a horrible game, but in the end we got away with 3 points, Neymar has been responsible for the equaliser and played a part on the 2nd goal.
I get the feeling that some people here forget that we don't need a scapegoat right now.
He was horrendous, awful, pathetic for a player of his status, but without him we would have lost the game. Full stop.

Are we back to the "Sell him"-Stuff? What do you expect from the guy?
Will you be a little bit thankful for having him in the team because otherwise... we would have lost today.

You make it sound as if all other players are retarded and as if only Neymar is capable of having 2 out of 22 successful passes ratio (1 assist though).

If Neymar hadn't play tonight, he wouldn't assisted, true.
But also, he wouldn't lost like 20 balls.

If we theoretically played Arda-Suarez-Rafinha, who knows how they would play.
Arda surely wouldn't lost 20 balls like Neymar.

Maybe we would have an easy 3:1 win that way, without Neymar's lost balls and without Neymar's assist.

 

[Horatio]

He was horrendous, awful, pathetic for a player of his status, but without him we would have lost the game. Full stop.

I have never understood the 'without x player we would have lost' argument.
If Barcelona not had gotten Neymar it's not as if they would decide to play with 10 players on the pitch.
Another quality player would have filled Neymar's spot.

Having said that, I don't want Neymar to go anywhere. He will get back. That's 100% guaranteed.

 

[BBZ8800]

I have never understood the 'without x player we would have lost' argument.
If Barcelona not had gotten Neymar it's not as if they would decide to play with 10 players on the pitch.
Another quality player would have filled Neymar's spot.

Exactly, we have written the same reply in the same moment.

 

[ViscaBarca99]

You make it sound as if all other players are retarded and as if only Neymar is capable of having 2 out of 22 successful passes ratio (1 assist though).

If Neymar hadn't play tonight, he wouldn't assisted, true.
But also, he wouldn't lost like 20 balls.

If we theoretically played Arda-Suarez-Rafinha, who knows how they would play.
Arda surely wouldn't lost 20 balls like Neymar.

Maybe we would have an easy 3:1 win that way, without Neymar's lost balls and without Neymar's assist.

And you make it sound as if Neymar has been responsible for the team playing bad in the first half? A lot of players lost the ball numerous times today, even Busquets (which led to a goal against us).
And which "quality player" do you wanna use instead of neymar (as if you would find an option to actually replace him for real...)

 

[JamDav1982]

And you make it sound as if Neymar has been responsible for the team playing bad in the first half? A lot of players lost the ball numerous times today, even Busquets (which led to a goal against us).
And which "quality player" do you wanna use instead of neymar (as if you would find an option to actually replace him for real...)

Neymar did lose the ball far too much tonight but for long spells he was about the only one looking to create something in final third.

It was almost a Ronaldo like performance in kept fcuking up but eventually made the break through and was poor overall.

Who knows what happened if Ney wasnt there it is a pointless argument.

 

[ZenI]

Very fu**ing frustrating to watch, like 10 dribbles didn't go his way and he threw himself to the ground like 10 times. BUT, he also assisted great and had some great passes. He needs to find a better balance, play it more simple a couple of times until he gets his confidence back and than do his dribbling - not every fu**ing time he gets the ball.

 

[Antimadridista1]

100 bad passes and stuff.

But 3 really good moves with the one where he he created the chance for suarez in the first half but he passed to paco instead of shooting, and the other 2 got converted into goals and thats all that matters. So goodish game. No great,but not bad too.

For feck sake

Neymar is in absolutely awful form. He still managed to get an assist but please, for once, try to be realistic here guys.

 

[Devils]

For all the bad he was today, which was all sorts of terrible, that was an absolute exquisite pass to Arda for the equalizer.

But he has to stop trying to dribble past two defenders who are standing 2 feet in front of if. It's hilarious to watch. It's like he is just trying to show off and comes off as such a try-hard.

He's trying to be too Ronaldinho-esque with the trickery, but lacks the elegance, composure and skill when it comes to doing those things.

 

[evilhita666]

For all the bad he was today, which was all sorts of terrible, that was an absolute exquisite pass to Arda for the equalizer.

But he has to stop trying to dribble past two defenders who are standing 2 feet in front of if. It's hilarious to watch. It's like he is just trying to show off and comes off as such a try-hard.

He's trying to be too Ronaldinho-esque with the trickery, but lacks the elegance, composure and skill when it comes to doing those things.

That was especially evident this match... He is forcing magic, it's like he's thinking about the tricks instead of letting them flow naturally in his play...

 

[Horatio]

That was especially evident this match... He is forcing magic, it's like he's thinking about the tricks instead of letting them flow naturally in his play...

He did try to force them, and obviously because he was frustrated.

 

[DonAK]

Should keep it simple.

Use your pace, agility and close-control dribbling to beat your man. Instead of stopping up, hogging the ball and doing something completely different.

 

[Barcaman]

And you make it sound as if Neymar has been responsible for the team playing bad in the first half? A lot of players lost the ball numerous times today, even Busquets (which led to a goal against us).
And which "quality player" do you wanna use instead of neymar (as if you would find an option to actually replace him for real...)

He's the main culprit because he lost the ball way more than others and because he lost balls by trying his selfish moves and not through some team effort.
Oh, and because he is supposed to be our "main man" now but he is still closer to a circus boy.

 

[ViscaBarca99]

He's the main culprit because he lost the ball way more than others and because he lost balls by trying his selfish moves and not through some team effort.
Oh, and because he is supposed to be our "main man" now but he is still closer to a circus boy.

Ok. This is getting ridiculous. You sound more like a madridista or some hater than a barca supporter if you're calling the player who even assisted the crucial goal for us (even in a bad game from him) a circus boy... i'm out of here.

 

[SahanBarca]

Ok. This is getting ridiculous. You sound more like a madridista or some hater than a barca supporter if you're calling the player who even assisted the crucial goal for us (even in a bad game from him) a circus boy... i'm out of here.

He's a neymar hater

 

[JamDav1982]

He's the main culprit because he lost the ball way more than others and because he lost balls by trying his selfish moves and not through some team effort.
Oh, and because he is supposed to be our "main man" now but he is still closer to a circus boy.

He lost the ball the most but also created the most chances, assisted and worked hard making the second most tackles in the Barca side.

He played shit but still tried to make things happen and helped Barca get back in the game. If you are looking for 'the main culprit' others like Suarez did nothing positive and barely looked like he would. Busi sold them a goal and had a poor game. Rakitic was slow and anonymous and game changed with him going off.

Neymar was shit but others were worse. So he wasnt the 'main culprit' of you are comparing him to other players.