11 - Ousmane Dembélé - V1

[BBZ8800]

No, you're just dumb and repeat the same stupid shit everywhere. I'm not the first one to point that out.

A player doesn't decide to play even in pain you idiot. The medical stafd have full authority on that and are supposed to check for any potential discomfort. If they did and he got injured again it's unlucky, if they didn't and he got injured, it's their fault.

You and your circlejerk group here obviously struggling to understand basic concepts in football.

If anything Dembélé is extra careful after his last injury and would never play when in pain.

Why being so rude, Don?
Not cool.

You're joking right? He's a bit like Messi in the dribbling department, maybe not as flashy (and pointless) as Neymar, but that much more highly effective in beating one or two defenders like it was nothing. Not an inteligent player? Please stop, now you're just embarrasing yourself. Not only he can score goals, he makes killer through passes which he showed on a couple occasions with us already, and much more while he was still in Dortmund. He has the playmaker trait as well as being and out and out winger. This kid is gonna make it big time. Let's just hope these injuries are bad luck from his first season with the club, at Dortmund and first Rennes he didn't really seem like an injury prone player at all, so hopefully he won't become that here.

Calling him a flop because he's had some beginner's bad luck with injuries. You should be ashamed of yourself. Tell you what, I'll quote you on this once again when he's tearing it up alongside Messi and Suarez next season.

I have some serious doubts about his IQ, to be honest.
When he signed for us, my friend, a Liverpool fan, told me: wow, that Dembele kid doesn't look like the brightest lad.
I asked why, and he told me about this video:

I know, he is a kid, he was confused.
But I have some red flags about his IQ since then. And his decisions in our matches didn't help either.

I don't have a problem with this injury but I do have a FUCKING PROBLEM that he had discomfort in the game against Celta and no one actually cared! You have to be a true moron for this. Someone should be sacked!

We all saw this on TV and everybody wrote about this discomfort and than he plays at Anoeta?!?!? WTF?!?!?!

Robben was injured all the time when younger.
Mourinho used to curse during Chelsea's matches: Wtf, seriously? Are you injured AGAIN?

Sometimes doctors can't help.
And some players have discomfort in muscles all the time.
Or they do get injured all the time even though they had the best doctors and the best tests.

He is not a generational talent like Mbappe, but when he was fit he looked our second best player tbh.

2nd best player in terms of dribbling and an ability to create something out of nothing.
That is quite different from being a 2nd best player overall.

He was nowhere near that.

About Dembele's future, [MENTION=16775]dakt[/MENTION] already mentioned that a kid looks scared and mentally fragile for now.
To some extent it is understandable, because he is really a kid, in a foreign country, with a 150M burden on his shoulders, huge expectations, playing for one of the best teams in the world.

But, these injuries will hurt his mental strength even more.
Fans are already starting to doubt him, either because of his displays till now, or because of injury proneness, or both.

So, it will probably affect him and a burden on his shoulders will be even bigger in the next Months.

A few weeks ago, I thought that we don't need Griezmann, since we have 4 star players already.
But now:
1. who knows whether Dembele will be injured all the time
2. who knows how will he cope mentally with injuries and expectations
3. who knows whether he will ever fit to our team, and if yes, who knows how many seasons a kid will need to fit here

Sorry Dembele, but for Barca's short term future, like the next 2-3 years (Messi's final years), we will need fit, experienced and RIGHT NOW type of players like Coutinho and Griezmann.

So, we should let him recover and integrate slowly to our team, but I am not sure whether we can expect anything from him in 2018 and 2019.
In terms of Barca, it is good that we bought Coutinho, and imo, adding Griezmann won't be such a bad thing as it looked a few weeks ago.

 

[Raketa10]

edit: my signature is taking the piss, but people like you probably wont understand because youre too busy whining

Oh so you are the sarcastic one. Ok sorry my mistake I find you very intelligent and supportive if you know what I mean...

 

[Devils]

Messi & Suarez play almost every minute this season. This could have changed with Dembele taking some of the burden, but this is not to be. This is why I am losing my shit. We can't pretend that this is a minor issue, because it isn't.

As for the league, yes we are miles ahead of Real, but Atleti are not that far behind and now have 3 straight home games, while we have 2 away games.

Things would have been so peachy if Dembele & Coutinho were available, and this destroys our picture perfect.

As for CDR, if we beat Espanyol, then we will probably have to face a serious opponent (Real, Atleti or Valencia) With games coming thick and fast, we could use all players we can get.

Dembele isn't a rotational player for Messi or Saurez in the first place, so I have no idea what you are on about. Dembele is always going to be a starter alongside them and will likely.

Coutinho, Paco, Paulinho and Arnaiz (last option) are all attacking options we can use if needed and we really don't have many very hard matches for the next month. They will certainly be good enough to not destroy a 9 point gap on Atleti.

 

[Judoman]

Is Ousmane Dembele the biggest flop in history? When he was at dortmund he was one of my favorite players, in Barcelona he plays awful and is out injured all the time.. Don't hate, just stating some facts, they shouldn't go for him at the first place. he should be replaced with someone around Neymar's age (Hazard, Sanchez, Eriksen etc)

What is wrong with you man? The guy is able to play for...2 weeks now? And you are asking if he s the biggest flop?
20 year old, new signing, coming back after injury...and you are asking if he s the biggest flop in history?

Is you attention span so short? Is your perception of facts so weak? Is your desire to hate so strong?

Serriously...wake up.

 

[mobster_1930]

What's wrong with calling him a flop ? Don't forget how he forced his transfer from BVB, it was a ridiculous fee and signing made out of panic by Bartomeu. 140mil€ for a guy who had just one good season. It's up to him to deal with the price tag, but I'm worried that at the best he's Di Maria level.

 

[ASordidGod]

Real shame. Even with limited minutes he'd shown enough to suggest he could make a great impact between now and end of season. Big setback but not the end of the world; just going to have to be even more careful when he comes back. And if he looks to be in discomfort, even if he says he's fine, err on the side of caution.

 

[Zuti]

LMAO you fool this isn't my comment. i found this shit on reddit, it was too ridiculous not to post

Wel if you are posting other people's comments and they do not represent your own opinion, you have to make it clear, by adding the source etc, the way you posted it, it seems like your own comment and opinion, so you kinda deserve the shit coming your way...

 

[Xaviniesta]

Wel if you are posting other people's comments and they do not represent your own opinion, you have to make it clear, by adding the source etc, the way you posted it, it seems like your own comment and opinion, so you kinda deserve the shit coming your way...

i agree, had no idea people would fall for that bait

 

[Judoman]

LMAO you fool this isn't my comment. i found this shit on reddit, it was too ridiculous not to post

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/com...edium=front&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=soccer

You re just taking a step back now, that s what whiners do, when they get called on their crap. They get scared.
You didn t mentioned redit in original post. Based on you usual BS, it was perfectly valid to asume you actualy wrote that.

 

[ASordidGod]

What's wrong with calling him a flop ? Don't forget how he forced his transfer from BVB, it was a ridiculous fee and signing made out of panic by Bartomeu. 140mil€ for a guy who had just one good season. It's up to him to deal with the price tag, but I'm worried that at the best he's Di Maria level.

Two seasons actually. And while I agree we overpaid out of panic, I've seen enough to be convinced he's got real potential. Just be patient. To call him a flop at this stage is ridiculous.

 

[Raketa10]

Why being so rude, Don?
Not cool.



I have some serious doubts about his IQ, to be honest.
When he signed for us, my friend, a Liverpool fan, told me: wow, that Dembele kid doesn't look like the brightest lad.
I asked why, and he told me about this video:

I know, he is a kid, he was confused.
But I have some red flags about his IQ since then. And his decisions in our matches didn't help either.



Robben was injured all the time when younger.
Mou used to curse during matches: Wtf, seriously? Are you injured AGAIN?

Sometimes doctors can't help.
And some players have discomfort in muscles all the time.
Or they do get injured all the time even though they had the best doctors and the best tests.



2nd best player in terms of dribbling.
That is quite different from being a 2nd best player overall.

He was nowhere near that.

About Dembele's future, [MENTION=16775]dakt[/MENTION] already mentioned that a kid looks scared and mentally fragile for now.
To some extent it is understandable, because he is really a kid, in a foreign country, with a 150M burden on his shoulders, huge expectations, playing for one of the best teams in the world.

But, these injuries will hurt his mental strength even more.
Fans are already starting to doubt him, either because of his displays till now, or because of injury proneness, or both.

So, it will probably affect him and a burden on his shoulders will be even bigger in the next Months.

A few weeks ago, I thought that we don't need Griezmann, since we have 4 star players already.
But now:
1. who knows whether Dembele will be injured all the time
2. who knows how will he cope mentally with injuries and expectations
3. who knows whether he will ever fit to our team, and if yes, who knows how many seasons a kid will need to fit here

Sorry Dembele, but for Barca's short term future, like the next 2-3 years (Messi's final years), we will need fit, experienced and RIGHT NOW type of players like Coutinho and Griezmann.

So, we should let him recover and integrate slowly to our team, but I am not sure whether we can expect anything for him in 2018 and 2019.
In terms of Barca, it is good that we bought Coutinho, and imo, adding Griezmann won't be such a bad thing as it looked a few weeks ago.

I was just waiting for this , but BBZ8800 I agree with you that he needs time. We should not rush him again. Regarding his intelligence, it's hard to tell if someone is intelligent or not based on you tube clip. I believe in this kid and I am sure he will overcome this but as I said before there is clearly some problem with his overly tight muscles. He needs to work on this with our training stuff. If you look closely when he is stretching his range of motion in some cases is really really bad and if he doesn't improve in this field he will be injured 24/7 but that was for sure detected by our medical stuff at least I hope it was.

 

[Judoman]

What's wrong with calling him a flop ? Don't forget how he forced his transfer from BVB, it was a ridiculous fee and signing made out of panic by Bartomeu. 140mil€ for a guy who had just one good season. It's up to him to deal with the price tag, but I'm worried that at the best he's Di Maria level.

If you don t understand what s wrong with that, you are lacking the very basic logic reasoning.

 

[Xaviniesta]

You re just taking a step back now, that s what whiners do, when they get called on their crap. They get scared.
You didn t mentioned redit in original post. Based on you usual BS, it was perfectly valid to asume you actualy wrote that.

I didn't take any steps, youre the one who fell for the bait lol

 

[Centauri B]

Dembele isn't a rotational player for Messi or Saurez in the first place, so I have no idea what you are on about. Dembele is always going to be a starter alongside them and will likely.

Coutinho, Paco, Paulinho and Arnaiz (last option) are all attacking options we can use if needed and we really don't have many very hard matches for the next month. They will certainly be good enough to not destroy a 9 point gap on Atleti.

Yes, but with the number of games we have coming up, we wouldn't be starting all 3 players in every game. Now, we will be forced to play Messi-Suarez somewhat more than we would have liked, or risk getting some really bad results.

Moreover, I think that it is dishonest on our part to not admit to a serious degree of disappointment with how the season is unfolding apropos Dembele.

 

[FCBfan22]

Coutinho - out for 2 weeks
Dembele - out for 3 weeks
Iniesta - return time undetermined
Paco -return time undetermined
Paulinho - great option, but a very specific skill set
Arnaiz - Great finisher, other threats still unknown

We are currently left with Messi, Suarez and Arnaiz + Paulinho for specific matches. I hope Valverde does find a way how not to play those 3 into the ground.