not really for a Barcelona player; I would rank Messi, Iniesta, Coutinho, Busquets, Rakitic, Pique, Alba, Denis and Roberto ahead of him in terms of passing
11 - Ousmane Dembélé - V1
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not really for a Barcelona player; I would rank Messi, Iniesta, Coutinho, Busquets, Rakitic, Pique, Alba, Denis and Roberto ahead of him in terms of passing
at least Alba can hit good pullbacks to Messi and rarely gives the ball away
Shayan_barca
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After watching the liverpool-roma game i am certain that if dembele played we would have beat this Roma team, liverpool goals were long balls played behind romas high up defence line, all you need is a fast player (dembele, mane, salah) to take advantage of the space left by the high defence line... I cant believe valverde couldnt see this
serghei
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That's what a mental block does to you. You can't think clearly.
BarcaMessi
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There should be a thread on Valverde.
Much2soon
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There is http://www.barcaforum.com/showthread.php/14423-Ernesto-Valverde
It took me until the Roma second leg match to notice it.
It took me until the Roma second leg match to notice it.
one of the worst tactical decisions. we saw what happened when he came on and rakitic delivered that through ball that almost ended up in a goal. that was there all night for barca
his speed would have unraveled romas 3 man defense
soul24rage
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The Roma result will haunt us for the rest of our lives. One of the worst days ever as a Barca fan.
Raketa10
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If not the worst one...
Joan
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I start to believe this. Which is odd. He's been coaching in La Liga and EL for ages. Not that much of a difference for a professional. Or at least, it shouldn't be.
Givenchy
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worst was that 7-0 pounding by Bayern. Tito was ill, Messi only just came back from time out iirc and we were just bullied in those 2 games
Dembele has had some good offensive play, especially against weaker opponents. He does tend to keep the ball too long, like Neymar, but Neymar would at times keep the ball too long and then accomplish a miracle, which seems to be beyond Dembele's talent level. As RW, he is clearly not as good as Coutinho, but he is second best on this squad.
On defense, as of now Dembele is deficient, by Barca standards. Good effort, good tracking back, but he loses his man way too often, he just gets beat. He is up there with Gomes for worst defender among all Barca midfielders. I don't know if this a permanent problem, or if he might improve. Barca cannot afford this from any midfielder in the 4-4-2, given that Messi only plays defense part-time and Suarez defends only in the offensive end.
As of now, for this excellent team, he looks the level of a Copa player, a rotation player. I'm not sure he will be ready yet to be a first 11 player if Iniesta leaves this summer, not for a team aiming to win the treble next year.
On defense, as of now Dembele is deficient, by Barca standards. Good effort, good tracking back, but he loses his man way too often, he just gets beat. He is up there with Gomes for worst defender among all Barca midfielders. I don't know if this a permanent problem, or if he might improve. Barca cannot afford this from any midfielder in the 4-4-2, given that Messi only plays defense part-time and Suarez defends only in the offensive end.
As of now, for this excellent team, he looks the level of a Copa player, a rotation player. I'm not sure he will be ready yet to be a first 11 player if Iniesta leaves this summer, not for a team aiming to win the treble next year.
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