I don't know what Tata has them doing in training, but I've noticed some players who thrived under Sabella are having a dip in performance under Tata. Perhaps the latter and his training methods/instructions don't inspire confidence in them, or they just need more time to get accustomed to the change.
2015 Copa América
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I don't know what Tata has them doing in training, but I've noticed some players who thrived under Sabella are having a dip in performance under Tata. Perhaps the latter and his training methods/instructions don't inspire confidence in them, or they just need more time to get accustomed to the change.
Chainsaw
Killahead
I've lost count how many times I've heard this.
FIFA and UEFA should do something about improving the quality of international/continental tournaments. I'm saying this for years now. They are sacrificing these competitions for the clubs sake. The timing of the Copa America was ridiculous. The CL finalists barely had a week of rest before the tournament begin. Footballers are human beings. Mentally and physically such a tight schedule drain the players and they can't perform to their best when they arrive at the competitions half ready or worse.
The top leagues in Europe should seriously be forced to reduce their teams in their first divisions. 18 teams are ideal for Italia, Spain and England. Since England should do everything differently than the rest of the world I don't expect them to make any changes anytime soon, but Spain and Italia should do this sooner rather than later. The international competitions need to be scheduled at least a month after the CL final so the players and the NTs have enough time to recover and work together. I know people are complaining about the quality of teams and the tournament in general, but they also need to realize you cannot expect a team to work like a brand new machine when it's rushed made and its elements are overused. I hope the needed changes are being made soon. The NTs competitions are losing its charm and the football organizations are the ones to blame for this.
barcanuck
New member
Amen to this. Watching hack and wack the tired stars is frustrating to say the least. Cut the leagues to 18 and make one leg cup matches for domestic cups in Spain and whoever else does home and away.
barcanuck
New member
Sabella was a fool too not taking Pastore and Tevez to the world cup. Would of been the best backup for injured Dimaria and aguero not Palacio.
barcafan161
Active member
least they got their selfie's in...
Mitchell1978
Senior Member
Or maybe cut all out the meaningless international friendly matches and don't interrupt the club calender for national team matches, play all those games together after the season that way those teams are longer together.
The reality is right now club football is more important and of a higher level then National Team football which for the most part is very boring.
barcafan161
Active member
why there need so many friendlys i have no idea...really makes little sense.
FCBarca
Mike the Knife
Argentina looked poor but they also looked completely fatigued...Some bright moments individually from Di Maria & Leo but collectively they are painfully uninspiring - reflection of Tata, tbh
I was thinking about the wealth of footballing talent in South American countries, particularly Argentina & Brasil, yet you rarely get the impression either NT eschews much of their historical strengths or flair
Pleased if Vietto indeed ends up with Simeone & los rojiblancos, should develop into the sort of attacker Leo could profit partnering with but where are all the intense protagonists Argentina have long been famous for?
The Boca core of guts & committment, Menotti's creativity or even Bilardista football are absent & far from their criollo origin.
Curious how Argentines identify with this team or it's playing style
I was thinking about the wealth of footballing talent in South American countries, particularly Argentina & Brasil, yet you rarely get the impression either NT eschews much of their historical strengths or flair
Pleased if Vietto indeed ends up with Simeone & los rojiblancos, should develop into the sort of attacker Leo could profit partnering with but where are all the intense protagonists Argentina have long been famous for?
The Boca core of guts & committment, Menotti's creativity or even Bilardista football are absent & far from their criollo origin.
Curious how Argentines identify with this team or it's playing style
Chainsaw
Killahead
It's the FIFA calendar. Not all the matches played are friendlies and it doesn't make much sense some NTs play only the qualifiers in that period while many others waste that time doing nothing. They already have short time to put together their NTs. You want to take those few periods from them too, once again for the sake of the clubs?!
The reality is that FIFA and UEFA are giving less importance to the NTs competitions and that directly affect the quality of the tournaments. Clubs are swallowing all the attentions and that doesn't make much room for the NTs competitions to raise the quality. Remember how many superstars lost the recent WC because of injuries? That's a direct result of the tight clubs schedules and lesser time for those players to recover. The fact is there are too many matches played during the clubs season. 20 teams are too many and the cup competitions should only be played in one-off match and not the home/away mode. Not only the NTs benefit from it but it also raise the quality of the clubs competitions. Without the players football means nothing. If we give them more time to recover they have more room for improvements, and it also help the quality to rise both in club and international level.
The tevez lobby never rests it seems. Why should Sabella take a player who said he didn't miss the NT, and then suddenly want to hog the spotlight just before the WC? A player who's never traditionally performed for ARG. As for Pastore, he was given chances pre-WC, and he didn't impress nor was he consistent for his club the year before. Sabella was right in selecting who he thought would best fit his plans. He chose a low-profile, hardworking and versatile forward in Palacio, whose intervention was what led to ADM's winner against the swiss. Basically, every player on Sabella's roster played a role in ARG's lead-up to the final.
I keep hearing how Tevez would 've changed ARG's fortunes in the final, when in reality he's shown nothing on the big stage (3 CL finals or CA '11). He talks down the NT in disdain, and just when he realises they are doing well in his absence, and may 've shot at the silverware, he has a sudden change of heart and uses his AFA lobby to get back in to the side, and starts sucking up to messi. Pathetic. Such a manipulative character. It pains me to see him in an ARG shirt.
AnfieldEd
I am Leg End
Why would UEFA give a crap over Copa America and schedule the CL differently? I'm not being deliberately antagonistic, I am just pointing out why would they care? The euros usually start 3-4 weeks after the CL final. So they are aware of the importance of having that period between the two events.
Anyway the euros have always been exciting and usually better quality than a world cup. Copa America is usually also full of quality however most of those nations are going through a tough period.
Chainsaw
Killahead
I was talking in general. Didn't relate UEFA to Copa America. Thought that was crystal clear for someone your age.
blaugrana1987
New member
Versatile? Youve been drinking mate? The guy played few minutes in two most important matched in Argentina shirt and missed two best chances they have made in entire tournament. Guy is going to be 34 soon and plays for Inter Milan, that should be enough to ignore him.
I don't drink, mate.
I've been watching ARG since I can remember and that's since '94 to be precise. I can do without fanboys who just tune in to summer tournaments and act like experts without a clue about the squad or its history, to try and tell me whats best for them. Yeh, Palacio is old, but he's a low profile guy who's a team player, can play across the front-line, and featured in the WCQs. Big names means big egos, and Tevez was a cancer to the dressing room in the past and played no part in the WCQ campaign. A player must earn his place, not just get in to the squad because he has a divine right to do so. Sabella was right to keep him out. Strikers miss chances, not like tevez hasn't for ARG. His inclusion would 've made li'l difference, as has been proven previously. So don't go about denouncing a qualified manager, calling him names when he knows the ground reality better than you or anyone ard here.
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barcanuck
New member
So it's OK to take 34 year olds Palacio and Maxi to the world cup over Pastore and Tevez. I know what you mean about his beef with Tevez but Pastore should of at least been in the squad over Maxi no questions asked.
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