21 - Frenkie de Jong

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Huge loss to team and clear for anyone to see what miss without him.

Nah wasnt 'didnt lose a game without Lewa'... it was 'won every game without him' including games he got sent off in.

Trying to compare winnnig every game without Lewa to dropping points v two of worst sides in league in Mallorca and Granada..... top stuff.

Try again.

FDJ in that same season? When out injured drew couple games 0-0 and then lost to Real with worst home defeat in 15 years. That was after FDJ being best player on park in two previous wins v Real in league and cup and then best mid on park v Real as beat them in Super Copa previous to that.

Comparing City missing Rodri v Arsenal to Barca unable to beat Granada/Mallorca Sensational stuff...Not only Rodri... City missed KDB who is equally as important as Rodri and they struggled to get by Brighton at weekend also.

Best player at club... but others clap happy for likes of Romeu claiming club got a DM that others asked for... FDJ is levels above that clown at DM even though not best position.
 
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Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
I always said how important this guy is for team, since his injury the football quality dropped 1-2 levels. He is as important for the team as Modric was for the golden Zidane years.
 

Co0ter

Senior Member
Ah the Xavi supporters still defending him despite bringing in a dozen players for him and spending well over 200mil on tranfers that all haven't turned out well for the club.

The same people digging in despite it being clear to everyone and their dog that we look terrible without Frenkie. "But we've won or tied without him!"....Yes, yes looking terrible or dropping points vs the fodder of La Liga is the same as City struggling with their billion dollar team vs top clubs like Brighton and Arsenal. Not to mention they can field two WC teams with their bench, meanwhile our bench is half the size and consists mostly of B team players.

Just take the L friends, you're just looking foolish now.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
We looked "terrible" with him, fan boys acting like we were playing champagne football with de jong in the team.

What's this now 8-0 since he's been out.

I know his fan boys thought we would fall apart without him and start losing multiple games.
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
We looked "terrible" with him, fan boys acting like we were playing champagne football with de jong in the team.

What's this now 8-0 since he's been out.

I know his fan boys thought we would fall apart without him and start losing multiple games.
Nah man, we're really struggling without him in the build-up.
 

Co0ter

Senior Member
We looked "terrible" with him, fan boys acting like we were playing champagne football with de jong in the team.

What's this now 8-0 since he's been out.

I know his fan boys thought we would fall apart without him and start losing multiple games.
First of all, we aren't 8-0. We have two ties, against teams in the bottom 4 of the league, within the last 6. Our general play has been abysmal, particularly in our midfield. We are not playing good football. You know that. I know that. Everyone knows that.

You just refuse to take your L's, which is what little men do.
 

Kul_z

Senior Member
We looked "terrible" with him, fan boys acting like we were playing champagne football with de jong in the team.

What's this now 8-0 since he's been out.

I know his fan boys thought we would fall apart without him and start losing multiple games.
If you cant see that we dont have control in mf, and only thanks to mats special in porto we survived
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
We looked "terrible" with him, fan boys acting like we were playing champagne football with de jong in the team.

What's this now 8-0 since he's been out.

I know his fan boys thought we would fall apart without him and start losing multiple games.

Fake news.

Best player and team are not playing well recently.

Cope.

Still making things up as if anyone thought Barca would 'fall apart' without any player.

He is missed and apply your logic to Pedri or any of them missing if think team look good enough.

You were woefully wrong on FDJ.

Do better.

Your logic states dont miss Lewa and Ferran just fine also... top stuff.
 
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jamrock

Senior Member
If you cant see that we dont have control in mf, and only thanks to mats special in porto we survived

Yea that Porto game was actually the 1 game since He's been out that we "deserve" to have lost, that single 1.

With the right calls we would have won every game in the league since he's been out and that's just an undeniable fact, much like it's a fact that we haven't lost a game since he's been out.

And going by the lewa logic some put forward here, that means we would have won the league without him 😂😂 and with Lord luuk.

The team has a bit less control in midfield yes, but again we weren't playing champagne football with him either, so that line being drawn doesn't make any sense, TBH., city for example had dropped points in like 9 of the 15 games rodri hasn't played or something close to that.

Rodri the real best Midfielder in the world right now, his fanboys were getting a bit carried away with that.

We've proven we can win without him, which I've said multiple times.

But we have the clasico coming up, his fanboys better hope we lose that one.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
FDJ is the best player at Barca... of course he will be missed.... and has been.

Rodri is name brought up by folk who try to find anything to argue against.,

The fact that 'Rodri is better' is about all that have left tells its own story.

'With the right calls' Barca win every game.... with the right calls by opposition they win less than have.

Barca have 'proven can win' without Pedri, Lewa etc also..

Have 'proven can win' without Kounde, Raphinha etc.

Just sell them all.

Kessie fan boys used to claim he was better than FDJ.... used to claim De Paul, Rabiot could do same job.

Then Romeu was a 'true DM' in way FDJ will never be and have a good season etc.

Goooooooooooooooo fanboys!!

Usual nonsense.

Barca havent lost a game this season since Pedri been out.

Barca havent lost a game this season with Araujo out.

Barca havent lost a game this season with Kounde out.

Barca havent lost a game this season with Lewa out.

Barca havent lost a game this season with Lewandowski out.

Barca havent lost a game this season with Raphinha out.

Must all be over rated.

Kounde, Lewa and Raphinha 'fan boys' must be hoping Barca lose to Real. Thats the logic the numpties use.
 
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JohnN

Senior Member
We were lucky to pull through without a defeat while missing both Frankie and Pedri who.. are our midfield.

In case anyone missed it we are bypassing midfield play because of these two absences.

We can't control the game, so we instantly go to "exploit space with side changes" and it kind of worked to mask the problem.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Missed as expected.

As game progressed and Real pressed in midfield they took over middle of park and Gavi/Gundogan could not control ball and looked all over shop at times as Real took over that area of park.

Pedri missed also.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Want to see someone control game v Real.. watch Frenkie.

Not what mids offered today... although Gundo did do what he could.

Folk making out Gavi who makes less passes than any starting mid bar Fermin and had lowest pass % of those players is classic seeing what want to see.

Midfield control was lost as soon as Real applied pressure in middle.

Barca could still have won but FDJ has been the best mid on park v them for past year and a bit and he was massively missed.
 

Kul_z

Senior Member
Missed as expected.

As game progressed and Real pressed in midfield they took over middle of park and Gavi/Gundogan could not control ball and looked all over shop at times as Real took over that area of park.

Pedri missed also.
Gavi and gundo were teared apart with romeu entrance and xavi disasterclass. Ancelotti like a drunk pirate didnt even realise that with modric entrance he had camavinga, modric, valverde and bellingham against gavi, gundo and romeu. To be more precise, you had four of them against gavi and gundo.
 

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