4 - Ronald Araújo

serghei

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The perfect CB pairing to me for the modern game is Rio and Vidic. This is why I rate our CL win in 2009 very, very highly. That was a legendary United side and we were a class above still.

Rio is just not technical enough, and too close to Vidic profile-wise, for me to really work today with so much high press being the norm at the top of the game. It's more of a steel defense, but I can see that pair struggling vs high press team like current Liverpool for example.

I'd say Ramos - Varane/Pepe is the closest to what a current CB pair would be seen as ideal. Liverpool would have a case but too much of their defense is concentrated on one man to be seen as a great pair.

Dias - Laporte has tremendous potential IMO, but Laporte is just a tad too error-prone. Pep should be smart, sign Haaland, and watch him pick up 1-2 CLs in the next 3 years with City. He's very close, and just missing a prolific scorer.

I'd be tempted to consider Cancelo - Laporte - Dias - Walker the best back 4 in the world.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
Best for us is Pep stays at City, buys Haaland, and wins a lot so that Liverpool and Bayern don't get too much ahead of us. Because City is a small club in the bigger scheme of things.

And when Pep leaves City, they will have a serious decline for sure.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
More like tier 4 with Hummels and Bonucci. No way he's as good as likes of Pepe, Thiago Silva, and Chiellini. Not as good as Varane and Mascherano either. He only had 1 elite season, 2013-14.

He was for sure better than Pepe and probably same tier as Chiellini. T.Silva was the absolute best.
Godin was the anchor of the best defensive team in the past decade, he belongs to the conversation of being the best
 

jamrock

Senior Member
I'm trying to remember exactly when T.silva was a beast? Outside of Italy & France (for whatever that's worth) every time I saw him in Europe which is a hell of a lot, he either got exposed or didn't look like this awe inspiring defender like when playing for Milan in Italy & the less said about Brazil the better.

Highly overrated.
 

serghei

Senior Member
I'm trying to remember exactly when T.silva was a beast? Outside of Italy & France (for whatever that's worth) every time I saw him in Europe which is a hell of a lot, he either got exposed or didn't look like this awe inspiring defender like when playing for Milan in Italy & the less said about Brazil the better.

Highly overrated.

Silva, like others, chose to waste the bigger part of his career in poor Ligue 1, outside of what is elite football. Top class player, poor career choices.
 

Horatio

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I'm trying to remember exactly when T.silva was a beast? Outside of Italy & France (for whatever that's worth) every time I saw him in Europe which is a hell of a lot, he either got exposed or didn't look like this awe inspiring defender like when playing for Milan in Italy & the less said about Brazil the better.

Highly overrated.

Still better than David Luis.
 

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
Rio is just not technical enough, and too close to Vidic profile-wise, for me to really work today with so much high press being the norm at the top of the game. It's more of a steel defense, but I can see that pair struggling vs high press team like current Liverpool for example.

I'd say Ramos - Varane/Pepe is the closest to what a current CB pair would be seen as ideal. Liverpool would have a case but too much of their defense is concentrated on one man to be seen as a great pair.

Dias - Laporte has tremendous potential IMO, but Laporte is just a tad too error-prone. Pep should be smart, sign Haaland, and watch him pick up 1-2 CLs in the next 3 years with City. He's very close, and just missing a prolific scorer.

I'd be tempted to consider Cancelo - Laporte - Dias - Walker the best back 4 in the world.


You kidding? Rio was a skilled player whereas vidic was shit technically and couldn't pass for shit
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
Araujo has a ways to go but for Uruguay, he's knocking on the door, with Godin in his twilight years and Gimenez being so god damn injury prone despite being only 26.

Needs to keep at it.
 

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