9 - Robert Lewandowski
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What's the point of not getting him then?
The levers - at least for me - were pretty much without alternative.
And ffs, we are still first in the League
JamDav1982
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What's the point of not getting him then?
The levers - at least for me - were pretty much without alternative.
And ffs, we are still first in the League
No idea what point you are trying to make or 'whats the point of not getting him then'? means.
The point is it is huge money for a 34 year old that even if do win league could have challeneged without him and will need to be replaced soon.
Of course there was alternatives to the levers and even if dont think there was the argument is then whether the money that was available to be spent was spent in way that was for best in long run.
Nah, we couldn't have challenged without him.
JamDav1982
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Agree to disagree on that one.
The team has more potential in it than has been shown and kept pace with Real in 2nd half of league last season while being one of top scorers in Europe for large parts of it.
More likely to win league with Lewa but short term thinking with issues that arise even if do win league.
He hasnt scored in last three and will be suspended in next three most likely. Will need to be able to win without him either way to win league.
Also it is not just the league.. Lewa was justifiied as coming in for Europe and to be competitive there also. That hasnt happened. Lets see if league does.
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JohnN
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Why couldn't we? We could have 2 scorers in Auba and LDJ instead of one. It's not like he has set the world on fire on his own. The team had some Great performances before the first international break.
It all went South after that.
Lewa is great don't get me wrong. But is not the kind of transfer we needed since we had good chemistry up front with two players performing their best in our system. And as a last minute saving goal machine, you can't beat ldj. He saved our asses more times than lewa has or will.
It all went South after that.
Lewa is great don't get me wrong. But is not the kind of transfer we needed since we had good chemistry up front with two players performing their best in our system. And as a last minute saving goal machine, you can't beat ldj. He saved our asses more times than lewa has or will.
KingLeo10
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When he faces comparable opposition in CL:
12-13: Dortmund v RM (4 goals, 2 games)
13-14: Dortmund v RM (0 goals, 2 games)
14-15: Bayern v Barca (1 goal, 2 games)
15-16: Bayern v Juve ( 1 goal, 2 games); Bayern v AM (1 goal, 2 games)
16-17: Bayern v RM (1 goal, 2 games)
17-18: Bayern v RM (0 goal, 2 games)
18-19: Bayern v Pool (0 goal, 2 games)
19-20: Bayern v PSG ( 0 goal, 1 game)
8 goals in 17 games
And if you take out that one outlier v RM where he was relatively unknown and no one marked him that well, it's 4 goals in 16 games
Comparison, Benzema last season scored 10 goals in 7 games against teams comparable in strength to RM (PSG, Chelsea, City, Pool). That's more than Lewa's entire output from the last 10 years combined.
I'm not saying he's never been a world class player. He is an elite striker and one of the best of his generation. But his CL and goalscoring exploits are padded to the max from destroying weak opposition. He even managed to fool me in the beginning of the season thinking he would uplift this team.
12-13: Dortmund v RM (4 goals, 2 games)
13-14: Dortmund v RM (0 goals, 2 games)
14-15: Bayern v Barca (1 goal, 2 games)
15-16: Bayern v Juve ( 1 goal, 2 games); Bayern v AM (1 goal, 2 games)
16-17: Bayern v RM (1 goal, 2 games)
17-18: Bayern v RM (0 goal, 2 games)
18-19: Bayern v Pool (0 goal, 2 games)
19-20: Bayern v PSG ( 0 goal, 1 game)
8 goals in 17 games
And if you take out that one outlier v RM where he was relatively unknown and no one marked him that well, it's 4 goals in 16 games
Comparison, Benzema last season scored 10 goals in 7 games against teams comparable in strength to RM (PSG, Chelsea, City, Pool). That's more than Lewa's entire output from the last 10 years combined.
I'm not saying he's never been a world class player. He is an elite striker and one of the best of his generation. But his CL and goalscoring exploits are padded to the max from destroying weak opposition. He even managed to fool me in the beginning of the season thinking he would uplift this team.
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KingLeo is right as usual. Lewy is one of the best strikers of his generation but many people do overrate him. For me, the best strikers of the past 10-15 years are:
1. Luis Suarez
2. Karim Benzema
3. Robert Lewandowski
4. Edinson Cavani
5. Gonzalo Higuain
6. Sergio Aguero
7. Radamel Falcao
8. Edin Dzeko
9. Mario Gomez
10. Diego Costa
1. Luis Suarez
2. Karim Benzema
3. Robert Lewandowski
4. Edinson Cavani
5. Gonzalo Higuain
6. Sergio Aguero
7. Radamel Falcao
8. Edin Dzeko
9. Mario Gomez
10. Diego Costa
snowy
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Could've gotten Ben Yedder for 20 mil (scores for fun)
Lewy delivered in ll so far _ he went tipsy in the 2 Bayern bouts & in the ca$hico, HH & Var denied him a clear pen so it's not like he's a flop. Amount could've been spent for a younger scorer, ie. Ekitike or Wissam combined with a Striker coatch specialist to help out Dembz and Raph
Laporta wanted his marquee Balon d'Or signing after he lost face with Messi letting his farewell handshake hang in the air
lewy's ok though but since we were short on funds, he kinda looks like a middle age dude who's broke and buys a Lambo on loan .. other signings we could've done without were Alonso, Kessie, Andreas
but the really really stupid one was Ferran who just lacks confidence. Pep knew and he wham bam banged us hard on this one
Nazario1985
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Aguero 6 & Higuain 5
And then Costa in this list ....
makes it a no go list
Top 2 is obviously Suarez/Karim
Donauwelle
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When he faces comparable opposition in CL:
12-13: Dortmund v RM (4 goals, 2 games)
13-14: Dortmund v RM (0 goals, 2 games)
14-15: Bayern v Barca (1 goal, 2 games)
15-16: Bayern v Juve ( 1 goal, 2 games); Bayern v AM (1 goal, 2 games)
16-17: Bayern v RM (1 goal, 2 games)
17-18: Bayern v RM (0 goal, 2 games)
18-19: Bayern v Pool (0 goal, 2 games)
19-20: Bayern v PSG ( 0 goal, 1 game)
8 goals in 17 games
And if you take out that one outlier v RM where he was relatively unknown and no one marked him that well, it's 4 goals in 16 games
Comparison, Benzema last season scored 10 goals in 7 games against teams comparable in strength to RM (PSG, Chelsea, City, Pool). That's more than Lewa's entire output from the last 10 years combined.
I'm not saying he's never been a world class player. He is an elite striker and one of the best of his generation. But his CL and goalscoring exploits are padded to the max from destroying weak opposition. He even managed to fool me in the beginning of the season thinking he would uplift this team.
That is too easy as you do not relate that to the systems they played in etc.
RM usually does not have the ball that much. In none of the matches in the final stage in 2022 RM had the most ball possession. Whereas Bayern usually had much more possession than the opponent - what makes it especially difficult for the centre forward in this knockout matches.
In the Bayern-Barca matches 14/15 he played with a mask.
16/17 it was just one match against RM.
You count the 5 goals from Benzema against Chelsea last season - but don't count the 3 goals (and 4 assists) of Lewandowski against Chelsea in 2020?
KingLeo10
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My premise is his performance versus comparable strength teams. 19/20 Chelsea was nowhere near 19/20 Bayern in strength.
I already know he's great at beating weaker teams.
CatalinR10
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I still have faith that Lewa can provide us the Europa League.
Please Lewa don't let me down , pls.
Please Lewa don't let me down , pls.
malvolio
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