Achraf Hakimi
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JamDav1982
Senior Member
Dont really buy into this idea of Hakimi stopping Semedo going there... Semedo does not have enough going forward to be a wing back at a top club.
El Gato
Villarato!
Just shut up Morten.
Yes, Carvajal is not getting any younger, he's 28, contract runs out in 2022 so he's slated for a chunky extension to wind his future down with us Marcelo-style. Seemingly anyway.
No, Carvajal is not some fucking scrub that is 10x worse than Hakimi offensively + he's light years ahead of him defensively and couldn't be replaced by him, Odriozola, young Hakimi (in 17/18) or Danilo. Carvajal sealed titles, CL knockout and final wins with his assists. His 'decline' is nowhere near where you seem to think it is. At the moment, after a relatively poor 19/20, he's part of a defensive block that is 2nd in Europe for total goals conceded.
Yes, he does need a competitor. Odriozola is somewhat of a dim lad who makes bad decisions and lacks awareness. A tryhard and heart ruling head, so not too smart it seems, but not that he's doomed. He'll probably be on loan next season and if he gets a grip, he might get another shot. Vazquez or Nacho patchwork at RB won't suffice if he's injured though.
No, Hakimi doesn't want to be a competitor. He seems to see it as 'my way or the highway' in that he wants to play. Like Marcos Llorente did. Fair play. But Real have zero reason to bin an all-time great Spanish RB to give him what he wants.
Yes, Hakimi's a great attacking option. He'd give us a lot more flexibility tactically, but...
No, he's not NEARLY a reliable defender. He's 3x as poor 1-on-1 while Carvajal has pocketed Ribery, Neymar and several others on multiple occasions. Even Bale was a better LB in his early years than Hakimi is and that appears to be the positional trajectory with Achraf. He's an athletic WB who likes to get in the box. He may or may not be a winger soon, but even in a Conte system he'll be asked to defend. In our system he'd have to PROVE he can defend before he gets time.
If he doesn't want this and doesn't care about the club nearly as much, then I'm prepared to pass. Painful as it is to lose a future asset. Especially for so cheap with no buyback as rumors indicate now.
Yes, Carvajal is not getting any younger, he's 28, contract runs out in 2022 so he's slated for a chunky extension to wind his future down with us Marcelo-style. Seemingly anyway.
No, Carvajal is not some fucking scrub that is 10x worse than Hakimi offensively + he's light years ahead of him defensively and couldn't be replaced by him, Odriozola, young Hakimi (in 17/18) or Danilo. Carvajal sealed titles, CL knockout and final wins with his assists. His 'decline' is nowhere near where you seem to think it is. At the moment, after a relatively poor 19/20, he's part of a defensive block that is 2nd in Europe for total goals conceded.
Yes, he does need a competitor. Odriozola is somewhat of a dim lad who makes bad decisions and lacks awareness. A tryhard and heart ruling head, so not too smart it seems, but not that he's doomed. He'll probably be on loan next season and if he gets a grip, he might get another shot. Vazquez or Nacho patchwork at RB won't suffice if he's injured though.
No, Hakimi doesn't want to be a competitor. He seems to see it as 'my way or the highway' in that he wants to play. Like Marcos Llorente did. Fair play. But Real have zero reason to bin an all-time great Spanish RB to give him what he wants.
Yes, Hakimi's a great attacking option. He'd give us a lot more flexibility tactically, but...
No, he's not NEARLY a reliable defender. He's 3x as poor 1-on-1 while Carvajal has pocketed Ribery, Neymar and several others on multiple occasions. Even Bale was a better LB in his early years than Hakimi is and that appears to be the positional trajectory with Achraf. He's an athletic WB who likes to get in the box. He may or may not be a winger soon, but even in a Conte system he'll be asked to defend. In our system he'd have to PROVE he can defend before he gets time.
If he doesn't want this and doesn't care about the club nearly as much, then I'm prepared to pass. Painful as it is to lose a future asset. Especially for so cheap with no buyback as rumors indicate now.
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I never said Carvajal wasnt good enough, i think he has been quite good this season.
It would be nice if Hakimi staid to compete, but if he wants guaranteed spot, then i understand why we sell him, he isnt better than Carvajal yet.
Though, hasnt he played almost like a winger for Dortmund? Our right flank isnt that strong, it would have been interesting to see him in that position, considering he probably wouldnt take too many games away from Carvajal.
It would be nice if Hakimi staid to compete, but if he wants guaranteed spot, then i understand why we sell him, he isnt better than Carvajal yet.
Though, hasnt he played almost like a winger for Dortmund? Our right flank isnt that strong, it would have been interesting to see him in that position, considering he probably wouldnt take too many games away from Carvajal.
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El Gato
Villarato!
Asked about Achraf, Zidane replied:
https://www.managingmadrid.com/2020...chraf-hakimi-transfer-press-conference-getafe
https://www.managingmadrid.com/2020...chraf-hakimi-transfer-press-conference-getafe
El Gato
Villarato!
Sold.
No word of buyback in the announcement. Spanish with conflicting reports indicating there is one, Italians know nothing of it.
Ugh.
Edit: Some sources, notably transfermarkt, indicate Real may have secured the rights to match incoming offers, as in Mariano-to-Lyon deal where nothing was announced officially. Which would make more sense for Inter than agreeing to a set buyback number since they'd have no obligation to accept anything on any specific date. So that in itself may not be too far-fetched even if it's still hopeful gymnastics by fans and media.
No word of buyback in the announcement. Spanish with conflicting reports indicating there is one, Italians know nothing of it.
Ugh.
Edit: Some sources, notably transfermarkt, indicate Real may have secured the rights to match incoming offers, as in Mariano-to-Lyon deal where nothing was announced officially. Which would make more sense for Inter than agreeing to a set buyback number since they'd have no obligation to accept anything on any specific date. So that in itself may not be too far-fetched even if it's still hopeful gymnastics by fans and media.
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DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Rights to match incoming offers is such a useless clause. The only thing that happens is that you get notified whenever another club makes an official offer the selling club are accepting, which the player's agent will tell you anyway beforehand.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
I wonder why Dortmund didn't buy him outright.
Anyway finally a piece of good news.
Anyway finally a piece of good news.
Catta
Senior Member
Bayern told them they don't need him, so BVB won't buy.
MTL_Barca
Well-known member
They probably also simply lack the money. Thanks to Covid they expect to end on a loss of 45M for 2019/20.
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