Adrien Rabiot

[MTL_Barca]

That is way too simplified and wrong.

It would be better to say, Barca has 3 "Barca's DNA" styles:
1. Cruijjf's/Rjkaard's/Van Gaal's/Dutch style
2. then we have Pep's 2008-2012 style which came from Cruijff's and Rijkaard's style, but Pep changed some things (got rid of taller midfielders/strikers and turned into short-technical players and pushed possession into extremes). So, imo, that is an extreme version of Barca's classical style.
3. then we have post Pep's style, where Pep's style obviously isn't working and the opponents have figured out some things how to lower it's efficiency, but we are trying to replicate it without too much success.

Now, I don't "hate" Barca's style.
I love a style no1, I even have Rijkaard at my avatar. This is why I love Barca.
I love even style no2, even though I think that style can never be replicated, you can only get poor copies of it.
I do "hate" though a style no3, this sterile thing from post Pep's era (for example, what Spain played at this world cup)

So, imo, it is quite wrong just to say: Pep's style is Barca's style, or Pep's style is the ONLY Barca's style.
Pep's style is one of many versions of Barca's style.
The world or Barca won't die if we try to evolve from Pep's style.
(I know, we are not playing Pep's style currently, but the obssession to replicate it is quite strong in a lot of fans even today).

Well and i never said Peps way of playing is the only one, but see you mention different approaches of the same style but many people, even "experts" and the media just calls all the same.

I'm totally for evolving and even Pep adapts nowadays when playing for example something like Costa (left foot) LW Coman (right foot) RW to serve Müller+Lewandowski in the middle and then lets his fullbacks play more like CMs at his last season at Bayern. His City also plays different than Bayern and Barca.

Thats the stuff i miss him for the most, the only thing that comes close to something unexpected was playing Sergi Roberto as RB. Besides that its the same old shit over and over without any innovation ans just super predictable, would love to have a coach with visions like Pep again one day. Back when he left there were rumors he wanted to sell some key players and i can believe thats true, always evolving.

Sometimes he thinks too much and it looks stupid because his players can't do what he wants but i just love how he truly believes in what he does and always tries to come up with something new.

Besides these things i think you need outstanding players and and outstanding coach to really dominate with this. Defending or just "regular" mixed style football is just easier. Coaches know it, players know it but how many players learned think and passing like our la masia players? Same for coaches. They choose random coaches who played for us because of DNA but it just looks forced as a product.

Idk where we should find someone like that unless Xavi becomes a class coach in a few years so it will probably stay like this for quite some time.

 

[FC433]

Seems that we are actually interested in him. How do you feel? Yes or no and why? If no, who is the alternative?
Go...

I actually would not mind him if he is going to be coming at a reasonable price 40m maximum. I have not watched him enough, but the games that I watched he played quite well. However, he *seems* hot-headed and arrogant. I do not know if that is true though.

 

[DonAK]

Neymar's diva attitude with less drive and 1/10th of his talent.

 

[Joan]

A look at what we have right now can help: Busquets, Rakitić, Arthur, Coutinho, Alena (Paulinho out?, Gomes, Rafinha on their way out). At least one midfielder is needed. Now, let's take a look at the market, who's available? Thiago? Eriksen, Kante? Not realistic. And that's where Rabiot for good price comes in. Young, with tons of potential, strong, yet experienced player. What's best, can play anywhere in the midfield, either being our longed-for Busquets replacement or as a CM.

Has his flaws, diva attitude, arrogant, kind of a prick... just feel he wouldn't be bad for us.

 

[Givenchy]

A look at what we have right now can help: Busquets, Rakitić, Arthur, Coutinho, Alena (Paulinho out?, Gomes, Rafinha on their way out). At least one midfielder is needed. Now, let's take a look at the market, who's available? Thiago? Eriksen, Kante? Not realistic. And that's where Rabiot for good price comes in. Young, with tons of potential, strong, yet experienced player. What's best, can play anywhere in the midfield, either being our longed-for Busquets replacement or as a CM.

Has his flaws, diva attitude, arrogant, kind of a prick... just feel he wouldn't be bad for us.

agree. alot made about his diva attitude but other than the France not picking him thing (kinda understandable he'd be pissed) what else has he done?

 

[ronniecro]

we're gonna embarrass ourselves yet again by wanting to sign psg player,and a garbage one this time to make it worse

 

[xXKonan]

I suspect Abidal is the one pushing the hardest for Rabiot.

Rabiot was great vs us when PSG killed us in the 4-0 Game away. But like the rest of the team they mentally fizzled out at the Camp Nou. He has talent but is he really what we need? I hope he realizes if he does come that he can't pull that spoiled brat shit while he's here.

I remember Deschamps and Emery wanted to play him as a #6 but he refuses to do so because he hates it and sees himself as an 8.

 

[DonAK]

A look at what we have right now can help: Busquets, Rakitić, Arthur, Coutinho, Alena (Paulinho out?, Gomes, Rafinha on their way out). At least one midfielder is needed. Now, let's take a look at the market, who's available? Thiago? Eriksen, Kante? Not realistic. And that's where Rabiot for good price comes in. Young, with tons of potential, strong, yet experienced player. What's best, can play anywhere in the midfield, either being our longed-for Busquets replacement or as a CM.

Has his flaws, diva attitude, arrogant, kind of a prick... just feel he wouldn't be bad for us.

What's the point of signing a midfielder if he cannot start right now? We need more top class quality and midfielders that got a lot of energy and some pace to be able to press and play a more dynamic style of football. Rabiot simply isn't that. He's had other attitude issues taking shots at team mates and his club in PSG along with a crazy agent of a mom. He's simply an entitled little brat and if he's benched I can see him going off rails very quickly. He didn't even care to meet his new manager in PSG and cancelled a meeting and apparently want guarantees from PSG or any other club that he'll be a starter.

Btw, a midfielder that is a workhorse which is what so many people here seemingly desperately want, but also can play a decent ball, runs all day long like Kante and plays like a pitbull and is tough as nails despite his short stature is moving to Arsenal for 25m. Had a great World Cup for Uruguay.

Lucas Torreira is his name. Would be a much better option than Rabiot for the reasons you mentioned. He might not be a physically monster like @BBZ8800 want, but neither is Kante.

Why cannot this club be a little more ambitious? We were ready to spend 100m on Griezmann. We are set to sell several players and in worst case scenario might make 60-70m.

It's not like we're cash strapped. We're wasting money on average-mediocre players. If we spent a bit more on proper quality players or even one such player instead of two average ones we would be doing much better.

When will we as a fanbase and club learn? Sport and MD will keep pushing these average players as superstars while they are nothing more than decent at best.


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We've talked about improving the midfield for 2-3 years now and you're telling me Rabiot is the best we can do? Even after losing Iniesta?

Now, I don't like using these stats, but I am using this to further illustrate my point:

http://www2.squawka.com/comparison-.../tackles_lost/total_duels_%/interceptions#avg

How underwhelming Rabiot can be in a Ligue 1 that isn't very competitive, playing for an utterly dominant PSG with Verratti and Motta in the midfield should worry everyone.

Being impressed with one CL game against us and wanting a player because of that or how he supposedly can fit in with no evidence suggesting it, is not how a club should be run and how a transfer should be made.

Juventus already talked with Rabiot's agent-mom who offered them the chance to sign him, but they decided it was not worth it according to Di Marzio. His mom-agent has met with Barca, Juventus , Man City and Man Utd and so far Juve have rejected him, Man Utd decided to sign Fred instead and renew Fellaini lol and Man City still want Jorginho instead.

 

[MTL_Barca]

I'd rather sign no new midfielder than Rabiot on huge wages. If anything offer PSG 10M or something like that, 1 year left on contract so fuck them.

 

[Sorin]

What's the point of signing a midfielder if he cannot start right now? We need more top class quality and midfielders that got a lot of energy and some pace to be able to press and play a more dynamic style of football. Rabiot simply isn't that. He's had other attitude issues taking shots at team mates and his club in PSG along with a crazy agent of a mom. He's simply an entitled little brat and if he's benched I can see him going off rails very quickly. He didn't even care to meet his new manager in PSG and cancelled a meeting and apparently want guarantees from PSG or any other club that he'll be a starter.

Btw, a midfielder that is a workhorse which is what so many people here seemingly desperately want, but also can play a decent ball, runs all day long like Kante and plays like a pitbull and is tough as nails despite his short stature is moving to Arsenal for 25m. Had a great World Cup for Uruguay.

Lucas Torreira is his name. Would be a much better option than Rabiot for the reasons you mentioned. He might not be a physically monster like @BBZ8800 want, but neither is Kante.

Why cannot this club be a little more ambitious? We were ready to spend 100m on Griezmann. We are set to sell several players and in worst case scenario might make 60-70m.

It's not like we're cash strapped. We're wasting money on average-mediocre players. If we spent a bit more on proper quality players or even one such player instead of two average ones we would be doing much better.

When will we as a fanbase and club learn? Sport and MD will keep pushing these average players as superstars while they are nothing more than decent at best.


[tw]1015743843252211712[/tw]

We've talked about improving the midfield for 2-3 years now and you're telling me Rabiot is the best we can do? Even after losing Iniesta?

Now, I don't like using these stats, but I am using this to further illustrate my point:

http://www2.squawka.com/comparison-.../tackles_lost/total_duels_%/interceptions#avg

How underwhelming Rabiot can be in a Ligue 1 that isn't very competitive, playing for an utterly dominant PSG with Verratti and Motta in the midfield should worry everyone.

Being impressed with one CL game against us and wanting a player because of that or how he supposedly can fit in with no evidence suggesting it, is not how a club should be run and how a transfer should be made.

Juventus already talked with Rabiot's agent-mom who offered them the chance to sign him, but they decided it was not worth it according to Di Marzio. His mom-agent has met with Barca, Juventus , Man City and Man Utd and so far Juve have rejected him, Man Utd decided to sign Fred instead and renew Fellaini lol and Man City still want Jorginho instead.

Couldn't have said it better.

The thought of giving money to PSG and helping them with their FFP, for fucking Rabiot no less, disgusts me. Let others deal with that. I mean, if we'd be after Mbappe or some other world class talent that can help us right away, I'd stomach it since these guys don't grow on trees. But Rabiot? Fuck no.

 

[JamDav1982]

Would take Rabiot over Torreria all day long.

Not that particularly desperate for him but better far player than Torreira for me and would be more useful.

 

[Barcilliant]

Nowadays a mediocre player gets overhyped due to social media, YouTube etc.

Rewind twenty years and most of the players back then were better than today's lot.

Ronaldo better than Neymar, Shearer better than Kane, Henry better than Mbappe etc etc

Rabiot is a tad better than Gomes. There really is a lack of quality players in the market.

Back in the day South American players paid their dues by playing in France and Holland. If they excelled big clubs bought them. Nowadays players move straight from Brazil to a big club. The hype machine is in overdrive and players and their agents are beneficiaries.

 

[blaugrana1987]

What's the point of signing a midfielder if he cannot start right now? We need more top class quality and midfielders that got a lot of energy and some pace to be able to press and play a more dynamic style of football. Rabiot simply isn't that. He's had other attitude issues taking shots at team mates and his club in PSG along with a crazy agent of a mom. He's simply an entitled little brat and if he's benched I can see him going off rails very quickly. He didn't even care to meet his new manager in PSG and cancelled a meeting and apparently want guarantees from PSG or any other club that he'll be a starter.

Btw, a midfielder that is a workhorse which is what so many people here seemingly desperately want, but also can play a decent ball, runs all day long like Kante and plays like a pitbull and is tough as nails despite his short stature is moving to Arsenal for 25m. Had a great World Cup for Uruguay.

Lucas Torreira is his name. Would be a much better option than Rabiot for the reasons you mentioned. He might not be a physically monster like @BBZ8800 want, but neither is Kante.

Why cannot this club be a little more ambitious? We were ready to spend 100m on Griezmann. We are set to sell several players and in worst case scenario might make 60-70m.

It's not like we're cash strapped. We're wasting money on average-mediocre players. If we spent a bit more on proper quality players or even one such player instead of two average ones we would be doing much better.

When will we as a fanbase and club learn? Sport and MD will keep pushing these average players as superstars while they are nothing more than decent at best.


[tw]1015743843252211712[/tw]

We've talked about improving the midfield for 2-3 years now and you're telling me Rabiot is the best we can do? Even after losing Iniesta?

Now, I don't like using these stats, but I am using this to further illustrate my point:

http://www2.squawka.com/comparison-.../tackles_lost/total_duels_%/interceptions#avg

How underwhelming Rabiot can be in a Ligue 1 that isn't very competitive, playing for an utterly dominant PSG with Verratti and Motta in the midfield should worry everyone.

Being impressed with one CL game against us and wanting a player because of that or how he supposedly can fit in with no evidence suggesting it, is not how a club should be run and how a transfer should be made.

Juventus already talked with Rabiot's agent-mom who offered them the chance to sign him, but they decided it was not worth it according to Di Marzio. His mom-agent has met with Barca, Juventus , Man City and Man Utd and so far Juve have rejected him, Man Utd decided to sign Fred instead and renew Fellaini lol and Man City still want Jorginho instead.

All you need to know is that we are making moves on player that is being shunned by its own club, which 3 years ago practically didn't exist. Please give 50m for Rabiot and 80m for Willian and we are heading to abyss.

 

[JamDav1982]

All you need to know is that we are making moves on player that is being shunned by its own club, which 3 years ago practically didn't exist. Please give 50m for Rabiot and 80m for Willian and we are heading to abyss.

PSG are 'shunning' Rabiot?

 

[Lutece FC]

Nasser wants to keep Rabiot but Rabiot has only 1 year of contract so if a good offer comes, Paris will sell him.