Adrien Rabiot

Judoman

Senior Member
We should buy players with the intention to strengthen the squad, not to resell. We are not Porto or Monaco. 40m is a lot of money for a player with only one year left on the contract. Not to mention any signing bonuses and his salary that will cost us. When was the last time we actually made any money from selling players we bought? Marlon? Paulinho is the only one I can think of (Mina will soon be another one I reckon). We have a lot of deadwood that we need to get rid of, we sell them for a loss or we keep loaning them out until their contracts expire. Rabiot might be another one of those.

Agree with everything you said. I m not saying we should buy players because of their resell value.
Resell value is important because you can t know for sure that the player is going to work. If he doesn t, the goal should be, losing as litlle money as possible or
even making some. We usually loan players, that don t pan out and sell them for a loss. Or they just wait until their contract expires. This has to stop. This isn t just sport, it s also a bussines game.
On one side you have clubs with limitless supply of cash and than there is Barca, who spends money like we can print it, if need be.

Rabiot should strenghten the MF in Rakitic role. If he doesn t, than he should be out next season.
For me personaly, option no. 2 would be to buy a good RB and move Bob to MF. But getting a good RB is as hard as getting a good MF.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Agree with everything you said. I m not saying we should buy players because of their resell value.
Resell value is important because you can t know for sure that the player is going to work. If he doesn t, the goal should be, losing as litlle money as possible or
even making some. We usually loan players, that don t pan out and sell them for a loss. Or they just wait until their contract expires. This has to stop. This isn t just sport, it s also a bussines game.
On one side you have clubs with limitless supply of cash and than there is Barca, who spends money like we can print it, if need be.

Rabiot should strenghten the MF in Rakitic role. If he doesn t, than he should be out next season.
For me personaly, option no. 2 would be to buy a good RB and move Bob to MF. But getting a good RB is as hard as getting a good MF.

Glad we agreed. :cheers:

In terms of Rabiot's role, don't we already have Arthur playing in Rakitic's position though? Plus we have promoted Alena, I just don't know how things will pan out. I am all for buying a world class midfielder to help school Arthur and Alena while solidifying our midfield, I just don't think Rabiot is good enough to be that person.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Nothing stands out about this player whenever I watched PSG, even his highlight video looks like your watching Andre Gomes reincarnated.

But I been proven wrong before, the price is reasonable given his age and that he consistently played for PSG I am willing to give him a chance. He didn't make the France squad but then neither did Benzema (for obvious reasons) or Lenglet.

As long as this doesn't stop us from securing someone like De Jong for 2019/2020 then it is ok. On paper selling Andre Gomes and Paulinho for Arthur and Rabiot should be a positive move.
 

Judoman

Senior Member
Glad we agreed. :cheers:

In terms of Rabiot's role, don't we already have Arthur playing in Rakitic's position though? Plus we have promoted Alena, I just don't know how things will pan out. I am all for buying a world class midfielder to help school Arthur and Alena while solidifying our midfield, I just don't think Rabiot is good enough to be that person.

Well unfortunately, there are no WC MF that we can buy. At least not realistically. I guess he is a plan B and i would think(hope) they know how to use him. Alena issue worries me due to amount of MF players we have.
I wouldn t be surprised if he gets loaned out next season.
 

Catta

Senior Member
He is 23 years old, clearly gifted player. 40 mil is not a huge risk, since there is a good chance we will be able to sell him latter if he doesn t work for us.

The same was said about Gomes, and look how that turned out.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
He is not good enough to be selected into France's WC squad, is very immature to say the least and has an annoying mother as his agent. I am guessing when the contract renewal time comes she will hold the club hostage by demanding more money or else? Perhaps we will just say "else" then.

Sounds like a Gomes-level transfer.

Lenglet is not in their NT Squad either.
And our 150m signing Dembele is a benchwarmer there.
With that Nt logic, we shouldn't expect too much from either of those 3.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
For me personaly, option no. 2 would be to buy a good RB and move Bob to MF. But getting a good RB is as hard as getting a good MF.

I'll go with a rule that if too many coaches are having the same opinion about a player, there must be a reason for it.

This is about Roberto.
Coaches aren't too interested in playing him as a midfielder.

On the other hand, Rabiot is a starter as a midfielder for 5-6 years under different coaches.

There has to be a reason for it.

In short, I don't think that Roberto is a better midfielder than Rabiot.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Lenglet is not in their NT Squad either.
And our 150m signing Dembele is a benchwarmer there.
With that Nt logic, we shouldn't expect too much from either of those 3.

Because they are not good enough (or worse than the other players), that's why they are not in the NT. Lenglet remains a question mark at this point.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Glad we agreed. :cheers:

In terms of Rabiot's role, don't we already have Arthur playing in Rakitic's position though? Plus we have promoted Alena, I just don't know how things will pan out. I am all for buying a world class midfielder to help school Arthur and Alena while solidifying our midfield, I just don't think Rabiot is good enough to be that person.

Why are you willing to give a chance to Arthur to adapt and grow, who is 22, paid 40m, not in the NT team?
But you aren't interested to give the same chance to Rabiot, who is 23, paid 40m, not in the NT team?

Ok, we all have personal favorites, I am the opposite in this case.

But, we need to give chances either to both of then or to none of them.
 
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Judoman

Senior Member
I'll go with a rule that if too many coaches are having the same opinion about a player, there must be a reason for it.

This is about Roberto.
Coaches aren't too interested in playing him as a midfielder.

On the other hand, Rabiot is a starter as a midfielder for 5-6 years under different coaches.

There has to be a reason for it.

In short, I don't think that Roberto is a better midfielder than Rabiot.

Agreed. That s why it s called option no. 2 and i did not say he is better than Rabiot.

Bob is also not an awesome RB is he? But he can be a solid substitute MF.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Why are you willing to give a chance to Arthur to adapt and grow, who is 22, paid 40m, not in the NT team?
But you aren't interested to give the same chance to Rabiot, who is 23, paid 40m, not in the NT team?

Ok, we all have personal favorites, I am the opposite in this case.

But, we need to give chances either to both of then or to none of them.

Because Arthur appears to be far more impressive from the clips I saw than what I have seen Rabiot actually playing? :lol: Of course I am biased here.

In all seriousness, I don't know how Arthur will turn out but I am still on the hype train a bit. Rabiot just doesn't look good enough to me.

And do we have enough playing time to give chances to both to allow both to develop?
 

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