CatalinR10
Senior Member
Don't watch the italian league so often....
Is Vidal really worth Alexis + x amount of money ?
Is Vidal really worth Alexis + x amount of money ?
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instinct
Guest
Regarding the last seasons, maybe not but regarding this season, yes, definetely.
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Gascav
Guest
Touted as the best box to box mid, most versatile player around. Averages 4.5 tackles a game, has 16 goals this seAson
ZenI
Professor Balthazar
Barcelona are considering to include Chilean forward Alexis Sanchez (25) in their bid for Juventus midfielder Arturo Vidal (26). [md]
Lolwut? And who will we have for RW? Only Pedro? Pedro is not even that good on RW, he is imo much better on LW. And it's not like we can just bring back Delou, he is far from ready to step it up.
Galning
Moderator
Agree.
Unless Vidal himself wants to leave. And count me in, including Sanchez in any deal. Juve have been linked to him for two straight yrs now. So their is definite interest from them.
André
New member
Pogba will probably leave, Pirlo is very old, Marchisio is not that good. They dont have reasons to sell Vidal. And they dont really need Alexis, they have Osvaldo, Vucinic, Llorente, Tevez, Giovinco. Too many. Alexis would be a starter for sure, and Juve plays only with 2 strikers. No chance for this deal Alexis-Vidal.
tello
New member
There's no dobut about it...
That's the best news I read for a long time now...
Well, fanatics goonna remain fanatics for ever....
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The Observer
New member
Disagree. RW was Pedro's main position for years, including the 10/11 season with the famous "MVP" frontline.
I'd personally ship Alexis off to Turin in exchange for Vidal. Finding a winger / forward to replace Alexis is not as hard as finding a midfielder with Vidal's profile. Although I don't even believe Barca need an all-arounder like Vidal. A playmaker is needed. Busquets-Vidal-Iniesta doesn't look too balanced. Gündogan on the other hand ...
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Pedro has not been good at RW since the 2011 season and he definitly suits the LW more as teams have worked him out on right.
The Observer
New member
Fact 1: Pedro hasn't been good left, right or center in Pep's last season until this season.
Fact 2: Pedro has barely played on the right this season.
Conclusion: "Pedro hasn't been good at RW since 2011" is a fallacy.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
1. Pedro has played almost all his football on the RW since the start of season beginning 2011 - he has played there more than enough to show he has been found out and not been performing well there.
2. He has barely played on the right this season and largely been on left and guess what he is having his best season in years.
It is clear as day he peforms better on the left.
The Observer
New member
Pedro's form has nothing to do with playing left or right. Please elaborate what changes so drastically in Pedro's game whether he plays left or right that he can be "found out" on one side yet have his best goalscoring form ever on the other. The way he plays off the ball it is irrelevant where Pedro starts his moves as he doesn't cut inside and drive into the box via dribbling anyway like, say, Robben who would be severely limited if he played on the left. Pedro actually scores "tap-ins" from central positions most of the time. Not left. Not right.
Alexis too is playing his best ever season under Martino and his position hasn't changed at all from last season. This suggest that a simple conclusion like "left > right" isn't the reason. The improvement of Barca's forwards and also Cesc is down to Martino's tactics and his emphasis on quicker transitions, more counterattacks, less midfield triangulations which gives more space to our forwards.
Do carry on though with your "I will disagree at all cost just for the sake of it" style.
Alexis too is playing his best ever season under Martino and his position hasn't changed at all from last season. This suggest that a simple conclusion like "left > right" isn't the reason. The improvement of Barca's forwards and also Cesc is down to Martino's tactics and his emphasis on quicker transitions, more counterattacks, less midfield triangulations which gives more space to our forwards.
Do carry on though with your "I will disagree at all cost just for the sake of it" style.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Pedro's form has nothing to do with playing left or right. Please elaborate what changes so drastically in Pedro's game whether he plays left or right that he can be "found out" on one side yet have his best goalscoring form ever on the other. The way he plays off the ball it is irrelevant where Pedro starts his moves as he doesn't cut inside and drive into the box via dribbling anyway like, say, Robben who would be severely limited if he played on the left. Pedro actually scores "tap-ins" from central positions most of the time. Not left. Not right.
Alexis too is playing his best ever season under Martino and his position hasn't changed at all from last season. This suggest that a simple conclusion like "left > right" isn't the reason. The improvement of Barca's forwards and also Cesc is down to Martino's tactics and his emphasis on quicker transitions, more counterattacks, less midfield triangulations which gives more space to our forwards.
Do carry on though with your "I will disagree at all cost just for the sake of it" style.
Pedros strenths are movement off the ball and finishing and that suits the left hand side more than the right.
It is easy to see.
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