Are We The Worst Coached Team Out Of Any Big Club?

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Jammie, you wanna make an inventory and see how much teams like United, Chelsea cost?

What are you talking about? Barca to get back at that level require about half a billion in players. So another 300m or so looking at current prices being pushed around. Which is only 4 starters and that's only if you hit all of them right on.

Let's see.

Striker to replace Lewa soon.
New AM
New RB
New LW.

Considering 2 of these are forwards and top class forwards cost near 100m a piece these days... you do the math.

I swear I'm arguing with kids here.

The team can only get better via Arsenal way. With a top manager, brains in transfers, and time, 3-4 years to develop some good young players and see how they do. Only we are broke, so it's gonna be tougher.

Chelsea's squad is very poor compared to the level they should be at.

Barca squad is easily better and not even close, I think if you compared the squads yourselves you would agree but you haven't looked yet.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
The argument was always that spending 200m+ was to add to what was already there and make the team competitve now.

That is what they are to be judged on that claim and quality of the squad available.

Could have pulled no levers and finished second easily and even challenge with a top coach.

There has to be more improvement this season.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Chelsea's squad is very poor compared to the level they should be at.

Barca squad is easily better and not even close, I think if you compared the squads yourselves you would agree but you haven't looked yet.

Our squad is not better at all. It's about on par, slightly weaker. I think Chelsea would beat us.
 

Devils

Senior Member
Ok, but the alternative was just as shit if not worse. Basically allow Madrid some easy 3-4 La Ligas in a row, with Bundesliga like competition.

Was it though?

At club level you see Arsenal, Newcastle and Benfica have huge success with their transfers and they have spent less than Barca in the summer.

Even at the world cup you see teams like Croatia and Morocco who have squads that are full of players who are barely known to most people outside of their own nations play well-drilled and effective football.

The problem with Barca is that we have not had good recruitment with what little money we could spend and we are not a well drilled team playing good football.

Who has been given the liberty to sign and recruit players? Who is responsible for the football Barca plays?

There are other people to blame but the majority of this funnels down to Xavi.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
People acting like a net spend of 33m in the summer is something big, as if the club went out on spent 500m or more on the squad, smh.

Mind you a lot of the people are on both side of the fences with this whole money situation and hop between sides every couple of weeks depending on where the wind blows.

0% chance we win la Liga with the team we had before the summer, now we have a 50/50 Chance & but for a few missed chances we'd be through in that CL, all for less that 40m euros net.

How much has Chelsea & Man united spent in there rebuilds?.

Can anyone imagine if we just sat back for 5+ years has these teams kept putting more & more distance between them and ourselves.

Thank god the powers that be had the sense to understand this,Xavi has a lot to work on. But the money spend in the grand scheme of things is nothing.

We spend 120m, for 7 players, a net spend of less than 40m and for that we are competitive with a Madrid team that spent 80m on a teenager from Monaco alone.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Barca have no LW. Barca's CB starter is Chelsea's former bench player.

Complete joke of an assessment.

Probably Lewandowski, De Jong, and maybe Araujo/Kounde would start for Chelsea (one, not both). That's it.

Maybe Dembele, but I'd take Sterling overall, both pretty good, but neither top class. Havertz is better than both Torres and Fati. Lewandowski starts. Jorginho starts, Kovacic starts, and Mount surely starts too.

If you play 4-2-3-1, then even more Chelsea players start.
 
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ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Barca have no LW. Barca's CB starter is Chelsea's former bench player.

Complete joke of an assessment.

Probably Lewandowski, De Jong, and maybe Araujo would start for Chelsea. That's it.

Maybe Dembele, but I'd take Sterling overall.

No Kounde and Pedri?

Mats also easily better than Mendy/Kepa.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Barca have no LW. Barca's CB starter is Chelsea's former bench player.

Complete joke of an assessment.

Probably Lewandowski, De Jong, and maybe Araujo would start for Chelsea. That's it.

Maybe Dembele, but I'd take Sterling overall.

Nah Christensen was not some bench player they didnt care about.. they were majorly pissed off he decided to leave and he was big part of their CL win. Was better for them than likes of Koulibaly has been and Fofana so far.

Even then he may not be a starter.

Sterling plays on other side but of front three it would be Sterling, Lewa and Dembele and even Raphinha ahead of next Chelsea player.

In midfield FDJ and Pedri would start and in defence Kounde and Araujo would as well as MATS at GK.

Usual Serghie having no clue.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
No Kounde and Pedri?

Mats also easily better than Mendy/Kepa.

He is clueless.

Makes a claim then just chat shit trying to back up that shit claim.

All about making out Xavi has poor tools to work with compared to others.

Should have seen the shite he used to claim were talents under other Barca coaches...
 

serghei

Senior Member
No Kounde and Pedri?

Mats also easily better than Mendy/Kepa.

They are all pretty meh keepers.

Kounde or Araujo start, I said. One of Thiago Silva and Koulibaly surely start as well. Both fullbacks are probably Chelsea's.

If you play a double pivot, it's De Jong - Jorginho most likely. The 3 behind Lewandowski, are probably Sterling, Dembele and one of Mount or Havertz behind the 9.

At best you can put in 4 Barca players in the first 11 if you play a midfield 3, only way Pedri is in.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
They are all pretty meh keepers.

Kounde or Araujo start, I said. One of Thiago Silva and Koulibaly surely start as well. Both fullbacks are probably Chelseas.

If you play a double pivot, it's De Jong - Jorginho most likely. The 3 behind Lewandowski, are probably Sterling, Dembele and one of Mount or Havertz behind the 9.

Haha no MATS is the better GK.

Kounde and Araujo start.

So too does Pedri.

Up top Dembele or Raphinha start and both better than next Chelsea RW.

Chelsea often play 3 CBs so not direct comparison either.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Mats last season had one of the worst shot stopping stats in the league. He doesn't easily start ahead of anyone, especially considering how shit he is at crosses and how terrible he is in big games.

The only way he could get in is because Mendy has been terrible lately and Kepa is not great either.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Complaining we have holes in the team is the most lol thing of them all, what teams doesn't have holes?, Psg has all the money in the world & their defensive is shit.

City has 2 fullbacks & that's it.

Also making Kounde out to he anything outside of an excellent signing and a major win for us, just says it all about people trying to make cheap points.

If we signed a RB & DM, but no wingers, they would be complaining, we started the season with Dembele & Fati as the only wide man, we shouldn't have signed a RB, as we have multiple players who can cover that spot, including Kounde, who player their for the WC final team.

Every team has holes & you certainly can't fill them all with 120m euros.

Turning raphinha & Torres into some 120m euros wingers who xavi isn't using right, when the same individuals use to tell us how great Torres is, says it all really, just complaining for the sake of it.

Raphinha, give him time it's been a couple of months.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Also, one of the 2 clear players that would currently start for Chelsea is a soon to be 35 year old player who is 2 years away from an Al Hilal transfer.

Consider Lewa someone to be replaced soon.
 

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