Barca Transfers and Rumors

Lucho is in sabbatical but probably will coach some team next season. He brought in Turan, Gomes, Raki and Rafinha so maybe we can sell them to his new team. I'm sure he still think those players are WC. Barca can sell them to his team at discount price for old times sake,

Rafinha definitely. Guy loves him for some reason.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Bad excuses. It was always incredibly stupid to give an average player like that such a massive contract at that age. Simeone made him look decent in Simeone's system and some people hyped him up but he was never anything special.

Rubbish. He was one of the best midfielders in La Liga and one of Atletico's best players. Maybe he was a bit overrated, but not nearly to the extent you speak about. Make it sound like he was some turkish Douglas, which is far from reality.
 
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BarçaBarça

New member
Rubbish. He was one of the best midfielders in La Liga and one of Atletico's best players. Maybe he was a bit overrated, but not nearly to the extent you speak about. Make it sound like he was some turkish Douglas, which is far from reality.

As I remember it, most fans were a bit sceptical with the signing of him, but everyone was thrilled to get more squad-depth to rest the midfield more. Then Pedro left, and the signing of Arda seemed even more crucial, because without it we would be totally thin in attack as well. He wasn't a Douglas, but if Nolito were brought in instead, I don't think many would complain not getting Arda, even at that point in time.

... and handing him a 5-year contract was baffling and most knew that that part of the transfer was bad business.
 

Wick

Member
Arda from Atletico is good enough to play for us. But that player is long gone. He is not even half that player now. We just took a player in decline and we didn't know it until it was too late. Now he doesn't want to leave, and it's little we can do to change that.

They could terminate Arda's contract immediately. He would have to get out of town. Of course he'd still be on the payroll, but we wouldn't have to look at him and tolerate his uselessness on the pitch.
 

Jombi

New member
Rubbish. He was one of the best midfielders in La Liga and one of Atletico's best players. Maybe he was a bit overrated, but not nearly to the extent you speak about. Make it sound like he was some turkish Douglas, which is far from reality.

No he wasnt one of Atletico's best players. And thats why he left Atletico and Atletico didnt lose any quality as a result of that. Turkish Douglas? Never said that, but he was nothing special, only looked good in the system, which Simeone is an expert on.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
No he wasnt one of Atletico's best players. And thats why he left Atletico and Atletico didnt lose any quality as a result of that. Turkish Douglas? Never said that, but he was nothing special, only looked good in the system, which Simeone is an expert on.

He was one of their best players and they have not been as close to winning the league either sice he left.

Simeone didnt want him to leave.
 

henias

New member
Rubbish. He was one of the best . midfielders in La Liga and one of Atletico's best players. Maybe he was a bit overrated, but not nearly to the extent you speak about. Make it sound like he was some turkish Douglas, which is far from reality.

Probably bcos he looks the most "technical" among the defensive lot of them. Few dribbles and trickery here and there, but hardly a threat in midfield. Passing is average as well. The system made him look much better than he is. In Barcelona, it's alot more demanding. Even when Barca first signed him, I was not excited at all. I nvr understood why Bartomeu signed him. I watched many Barcelona vs Atletico back in 2014, he was pretty meh to me. He threw the shoe at the ref, and tats all I remember.

He reminds me of Isco for Real Madrid. If he stayed, he will probably get much better with Simeone's system. Never knew why he chose Barca, I had mixed feeings at the start.

However, if Barca signed Saul Niguez today, I would have higher expectations and he definitely fits Barca more.
 
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vlad

New member
Right system would make gomes a good player, non existent system would make busquets an average player, arda was perfect for atletico, for barca not, but overall i rated him as a good player
 

serghei

Senior Member
As I remember it, most fans were a bit sceptical with the signing of him, but everyone was thrilled to get more squad-depth to rest the midfield more. Then Pedro left, and the signing of Arda seemed even more crucial, because without it we would be totally thin in attack as well. He wasn't a Douglas, but if Nolito were brought in instead, I don't think many would complain not getting Arda, even at that point in time.

... and handing him a 5-year contract was baffling and most knew that that part of the transfer was bad business.

Nolito was a massive flop post Celta as well. And I agree that we gave Arda a too generous contract considering his age.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
A lot of players success depends on the system they are playing in, that doesn't mean they aren't quality
Arda was always a good player,even before AM, but he fit Simeone system like a glove and was awful to our system.
Same for Gomes, although I am starting to think his failure goes beyond the system.

But we have to be pragmatic in our contracts, fifth year team option. maximum possible buyout etc. We did that with Alena (I think) so hopefully we will continue this trend forward.
 

raki

New member
There´s a lot of great players in the French and German leagues. Rudy that went to Bayern is a great player. Goretka another one. Naby Keita. Etc.

Coutinho is not the only player in the planet. Fetch them early and cheaper.
 

gvt2000

New member
Rubbish. He was one of the best midfielders in La Liga and one of Atletico's best players. Maybe he was a bit overrated, but not nearly to the extent you speak about. Make it sound like he was some turkish Douglas, which is far from reality.

Like some have pointed out: Arda only looked good while at Atletico in comparison to his defense-oriented teammates and was most definitely nowhere near close to being one of La liga's best midfielders. Had he been as good as you make him out to be, Atletico would've noticed his absence instead of posting a 10 point increase at the end of their first season without Arda.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Right system would make gomes a good player, non existent system would make busquets an average player, arda was perfect for atletico, for barca not, but overall i rated him as a good player

Well said.

Like some have pointed out: Arda only looked good while at Atletico in comparison to his defense-oriented teammates and was most definitely nowhere near close to being one of La liga's best midfielders. Had he been as good as you make him out to be, Atletico would've noticed his absence instead of posting a 10 point increase at the end of their first season without Arda.

Such bad logic. By that logic Samper is a shit prospect because if you put him in a defensive team rather than in a possession based one at DM, he would suck. Players have their own style, and just bacause they struggle to play something else doesn't mean they are shit. Arda was one of the best midfielders in the league at Atletico. That's not even debatable. He won La Liga with them being one of the main players in the team.
 
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Kingkongkong

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Seems like we are being linked with Atakan Akkaynak. An 18 year old midfielder dubbed "The german Verrati"
Anybody who has seen him play? And can tell a little bit more about him
 

Zincubus

Banned
I hope we have people scouting at Alaves !!

Zidane Jnr looks a proper player ... playing in his dad's position he reminds of a mix between Zidane and Busqs :)

Obviously I'm not suggesting he's as good as either player just his playing style reminds me of them . Amazing technique !!
 
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