Best Player In The World in 4-5 Years time?

Bergkamp10

New member
Yeah he couldn't cut it in the CL final which he scored in and was excellent in...

His countless goals and assists prove he's a world class attacking midfielder. He also tracks back and works hard. He may not be a dribbler but that doesn't mean he isn't wc. Name 5 more outstanding AM's than him.
 

10Rivaldo

Hoy, mañana y siempre traductor
Lampard is world class, but way to derail the conversation. The original argument was, is he one of the best in the world? And the answer is a clear and resounding no.

No more than Messi was 2010.

Really? Wasn't aware he scored 34 goals in the league alone and finished as the top scorer in the CL.
 
V

Valon

Guest
I think that nutnut guy is a troll released from some unknown cave.
 

yusuf

Yusuf Islam
once again u english think that because your teams have done relatively well in the CL last couple of years does not mean that english players are doing well hence your absolute shite performances internationally. and the sad thing is you are talking about winning an equal amount of CL as spain and italy FFS :lol: so nothing much to brag about there................................................:lol: LMFAO at u having 1 ballandor and spain not having any...i think spain would prefer to keep their EURO and World cup trophy instead
 

Beast

The Observer
More WPOTY winners than Spain in the last 10 years anyway and English teams (with English players in) have done a lot better in Europe in the last 8 years than Spain. How times do you see English teams in semi-finals (even finals) and having to knock each other out because noone else can do it?

Barcelona are the only Special team outside England and if it wasn't for Barcelona Spain wouldn't be where they are today, Real Madrid haven't even made it past the last 16 since 2004 ffs and Valenica and Sevilla are lucky to even qualify for the Champions League never mind get out of the group stages.

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Not only you are a troll .. you also can't read

When did you win more WPOTY ??
2000 Zidane
2001 Figo(Real Madrid )
2002 Ronaldo
2003 Zidane (Real Madrid )
2004 Dinho (Barcelona )
2005 Dinho (Barcelona )
2006 Cannavaro
2007 Kaka
2008 CR (Man United )
2009 Messi (Barcelona )
2010 Messi (Barcelona )

You meant Ballon D'or and even that the Spanish clubs provided a lot more winners

why you count the last 8 years in the CL and not 10 ? trying to skip Real Madrid 9th CL ;) :lol:
Spain has 3 CL and funny enough two of them over the EPL sides ...
I guess you were not born when Spain had 3 sides in the final in 2000 cause no one else was able to do it ... we even had a Clasico in the semi final , and i guess u missed when Serie A had 3 sides in the semi final in 2003
the difference is both Serie A and Liga have enough local players to take the form to the national side.. Italy won the WC , so did Spain.. England won the "I'm too shit for my own good " cup
as Yusuf said .. without the non English players i doubt you would pass the first ko round.. that's as far as the English talent will take you While Barca has Xavi-Iniesta and co and Real had Raul-Iker-Hierro and co Arsenal had Henry and the French brigade and United had CR and Tevez...
the moment both teams lost those they couldn't beat anything worthwhile
in the last 10 years
go back to your cave and come
 

Lemmi

The Reckoner
English teams have been doing quite well in the Champions League recent years and are doing better than any other country this season (only country with 4 teams in the knockouts and only country with 4 teams actually in the last 16), people keep saying England should change adapt to other countrys, i disagree, from what i can see other countrys need to change and catch up to us.

Keep hating though.


this is great, the world cup would have clearly been better if everyone played like england. how they didnt win is actually pretty hard to decipher, i mean argentina crashing out was understandable given their average attack but with wright-phillips, rooney and milner (all £24m+ players) it should have been given to us by default.
 

Peerd

Notorious Demagogue
Not only you are a troll .. you also can't read

When did you win more WPOTY ??
2000 Zidane
2001 Figo(Real Madrid )
2002 Ronaldo
2003 Zidane (Real Madrid )
2004 Dinho (Barcelona )
2005 Dinho (Barcelona )
2006 Cannavaro
2007 Kaka
2008 CR (Man United )
2009 Messi (Barcelona )
2010 Messi (Barcelona )

You meant Ballon D'or and even that the Spanish clubs provided a lot more winners

why you count the last 8 years in the CL and not 10 ? trying to skip Real Madrid 9th CL ;) :lol:
Spain has 3 CL and funny enough two of them over the EPL sides ...
I guess you were not born when Spain had 3 sides in the final in 2000 cause no one else was able to do it ... we even had a Clasico in the semi final , and i guess u missed when Serie A had 3 sides in the semi final in 2003
the difference is both Serie A and Liga have enough local players to take the form to the national side.. Italy won the WC , so did Spain.. England won the "I'm too shit for my own good " cup
as Yusuf said .. without the non English players i doubt you would pass the first ko round.. that's as far as the English talent will take you While Barca has Xavi-Iniesta and co and Real had Raul-Iker-Hierro and co Arsenal had Henry and the French brigade and United had CR and Tevez...
the moment both teams lost those they couldn't beat anything worthwhile
in the last 10 years
go back to your cave and come

:worthy:


and :lol: at him trying to skip Real's CL :lol:
 

Lemmi

The Reckoner
in fairness beast's what has owen done since compared to raul is pretty funny..both were finished a looooooooong, long time before they should have been.
 

Beast

The Observer
in fairness beast's what has owen done since compared to raul is pretty funny..both were finished a looooooooong, long time before they should have been.
No , just NO
Raul won the CL 2003 , 3 league trophies , 2 Spanish super cups , UEFA super cup and Interconti Cup .

Owen won a league (Carling ) cup and the friendly community shield since 2001

the guy is a jinx,
left Liverpool = won the CL
came to Real = lost the league and CL
moved to Newcastle = relegated
moved to United = they won nothing
 
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Bergkamp10

New member
Yes but did Raul release his own brochure? Thought not.

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:worthy:
 
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nutnut

Guest
once again u english think that because your teams have done relatively well in the CL last couple of years does not mean that english players are doing well hence your absolute shite performances internationally. and the sad thing is you are talking about winning an equal amount of CL as spain and italy FFS :lol: so nothing much to brag about there................................................:lol: LMFAO at u having 1 ballandor and spain not having any...i think spain would prefer to keep their EURO and World cup trophy instead

Most English people would rather the Premier League to be the best over the national team, we have that, but soon we may have both.

this is great, the world cup would have clearly been better if everyone played like england. how they didnt win is actually pretty hard to decipher, i mean argentina crashing out was understandable given their average attack but with wright-phillips, rooney and milner (all £24m+ players) it should have been given to us by default.

England teached the world how to play football, so what makes you think the teacher now needs lessons? People go on about England players lacking 'technical' ablity like Spain do then why have England had the greatest of all these players recent years, Paul Scholes?

Why do English players (Gerrard, Lampard, Terry, Rooney etc) regauly standout as the main point in why their club side reach the laters stages of the Chasmpions League? Something which Spain and other leagues are way behind on EPL dominance and in that and in that awarded UEFA's (Europes) defender of the year, midfielders of the year etc quite regaulrly, we need to change nothing. More luck is what we need - less hand of gods, less dodgy ref decisions in general (not awarding clear goals), less red cards and less penalty shoot out losses.

But this new bunch will have technical ablity, as well as English fighting spirt and playing the game at 100mph, elements which makes the EPL the best league in the world right now, when we have all these ablitys don't you think countrys like Spain and Brazil would crumble when we are both technically, faster and physically better than then whilst having ablity to adapt to 1 or more scenario's? Whilst i like the Spanish style of play right now, it's all rather 1 dimensional at times and often lacking ability to adapt when need to, they never use wings for 1, they really get stuck in and tackle and even in the 94th min when they need a goal they still always try and pass the ball into the net - England will never be 1 dimensional like that and i remind you Spain have only ever won the same amount of World Cups than us and before South Africa best they ever did was reach a quarter final, this is their golden generation but next may well be ours or someone elses.
 
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Daemul

previously known as Jonathan28
Not only you are a troll .. you also can't read

When did you win more WPOTY ??
2000 Zidane
2001 Figo(Real Madrid )
2002 Ronaldo
2003 Zidane (Real Madrid )
2004 Dinho (Barcelona )
2005 Dinho (Barcelona )
2006 Cannavaro
2007 Kaka
2008 CR (Man United )
2009 Messi (Barcelona )
2010 Messi (Barcelona )

You meant Ballon D'or and even that the Spanish clubs provided a lot more winners

why you count the last 8 years in the CL and not 10 ? trying to skip Real Madrid 9th CL ;) :lol:
Spain has 3 CL and funny enough two of them over the EPL sides ...
I guess you were not born when Spain had 3 sides in the final in 2000 cause no one else was able to do it ... we even had a Clasico in the semi final , and i guess u missed when Serie A had 3 sides in the semi final in 2003
the difference is both Serie A and Liga have enough local players to take the form to the national side.. Italy won the WC , so did Spain.. England won the "I'm too shit for my own good " cup
as Yusuf said .. without the non English players i doubt you would pass the first ko round.. that's as far as the English talent will take you While Barca has Xavi-Iniesta and co and Real had Raul-Iker-Hierro and co Arsenal had Henry and the French brigade and United had CR and Tevez...
the moment both teams lost those they couldn't beat anything worthwhile
in the last 10 years
go back to your cave and come

The King of Owange :worthy:

Most English people would rather the Premier League to be the best over the national team, we have that, but soon we may have both.



England teached the world how to play football, so what makes you think the teacher now needs lessons? People go on about England players lacking 'technical' ablity like Spain do then why have England had the greatest of all these players recent years, Paul Scholes?

Why do English players (Gerrard, Lampard, Terry, Rooney etc) regauly standout as the main point in why their club side reach the laters stages of the Chasmpions League? Something which Spain and other leagues are way behind on EPL dominance and in that and in that awarded UEFA's (Europes) defender of the year, midfielders of the year etc quite regaulrly, we need to change nothing. More luck is what we need - less hand of gods, less dodgy ref decisions in general (not awarding clear goals), less red cards and less penalty shoot out losses.

But this new bunch will have technical ablity, as well as English fighting spirt and playing the game at 100mph, elements which makes the EPL the best league in the world right now, when we have all these ablitys don't you think countrys like Spain and Brazil would crumble when we are both technically, faster and physically better than then whilst having ablity to adapt to 1 or more scenario's? Whilst i like the Spanish style of play right now, it's all rather 1 dimensional at times and often lacking ability to adapt when need to, they never use wings for 1, they really get stuck in and tackle and even in the 94th min when they need a goal they still always try and pass the ball into the net - England will never be 1 dimensional like that and i remind you Spain have only ever won the same amount of World Cups than us and before South Africa best they ever did was reach a quarter final, this is their golden generation but next may well be ours or someone elses.

This post is so ridiculous it doesnt even warrent a response.
 

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