veryfatchocobo
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lol, this boxing drama. Also, so bored of looking at notes and books that I'm writing this wall of junk below. I think some people on this board will probably agree and disagree with this and possibly add to the discussion without it being a flame war of epic trolling.
Based on what I've read around the internet from "big" boxing sites: Marquez hires Angel Hernandez, previously known as Angel Heredia, a known PED distributor. Balloons in size at the age of 39 (faster than Pacquiao IIRC). Pacquiao smaller than Marquez in part 3. Pacquiao looked derpy. Rigged fight in favor of Pacquiao. Next year, Roach calls foul play on Hernandez/Heredia, saying Marquez is on steroids. Alex Ariza cries foul play on Roach, saying that Heredia won't do what he did in the past, and they're BFFs. Roach and Pacquiao "oust" Ariza. Roach says stop steroids by taking out weight/body trainers. Ariza complains Pacquiao isn't doing any plyometrics. Roach (and Pacquiao?) requests drug testing. Top Rank declines testing via VADA and USADA, claiming no one requested real drug testing. Then he complains about VADA and USADA being stupid or something. I bet you guys Marquez is going to look like a tank, while Pacquiao will be a midget next week. AND PACQUIAO WILL WIN DUE TO ARUM AND HIS MATCH FIXING ANTICS. CONNECT THE DOTS SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT HERE.
I've been defending Pacquiao from steroid allegations, but something is definitely wrong here. I know this is all speculation and fluff, but seems to me Pacquiao could be on steroids (though I'm still leaning towards he's clean). Ariza linked himself to the PED distributor Heredia. At the same time, Roach says Marquez is roiding and then ousts Ariza from camp who defended Heredia. His remarks against strength coaches was obviously aimed at Ariza and to a lesser extent, the same type of "scientific" strength trainers that Ariza and Heredia "are." Could he be suggesting that Ariza was giving Pacquiao illegal substances? This is what I'm really thinking.....
Another thing is that Arum could be blocking USADA and VADA because obviously, they're catching PEDs. It's reasonable to blast USADA because of their contract with GBP. However, flaming VADA is uncalled for IMO. So yeah, I believe, based on this, Arum knows one or both of the camps are juicing, and he's blocking the testing to avoid losing money from a positive test. Otherwise, the tests would be good publicity for Marquez but more importantly, Pacquiao. He has nothing to lose with a negative test from VADA. Why not take it, Manny? I don't understand why Arum would say no other than someone (or both) is taking PEDs.
Another timely drama came down between Pacquiao and Jingkee. They were fighting during the time of the de la Hoya fight, begging Pacquiao to not go up in weight. Before this came to the media, one of my family friends who is a relative of Pacquiao already said something was wrong between them before the media found out. Their fighting stopped before (or after...) the Mosley fight, which was when, coincidentally, Pacquiao started slowing down. She talked to media saying that she didn't trust her husband during their down time and that she was 100% against him going up in weight, which is now obviously fine now. Perhaps, Pacquiao's loss of speed and their stopped fighting isn't coincidental after all? When she said don't go up in weight, maybe she meant stop taking steroids? Maybe she didn't trust her husband with his weight gain? Divorce is illegal in the Philippines, yet the biggest sports celebrity of the Philippines was close to doing it? Maybe they're not fighting anymore because he isn't taking steroids anymore, which is marked by his sluggish performances during and after Mosley..... DUNNO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, but perhaps he really was juicing. And that's not just an embarrassment to the Philippines (ugh whyyyyyy), it's going to be the final nail in the coffin for boxing if true. Keep in mind though I'm still kinda leaning towards a clean Pacquiao.
Something I'm pretty sure about though is that Marquez is definitely on steroids. Between his fight with the Australian guy and Pacquiao III, he ballooned in size at the age of 38. Between this time, he was working with Heredia. Pacquiao didn't even change as much as Marquez did between his fight with Diaz and de la Hoya. Also, Heredia changed his name when the media came to meet him during the 24/7s. BIG RED LIGHT! Why would you change your name, Angel? I don't understand why someone would create an alias to the general public (aka HBO watchers) unless he was doing something illegal. Conte was one that pointed this out, and they were working together during the BALCO scandal. Something's definitely not right. Now, Pacquiao's arms are smaller than his previous fights, while Marquez's shoulders are now the size of his head (too lazy to find pics, but the 24/7s show Marquez's size). They weren't like that before until this incoming fight... And is it really possible for a 39 year old to get that big in such a short amount of time and improve in performance? UGH Sorry if there are Mexicans on this board that follow boxing, but dunno, I really think he's on PEDs, and there's a possibility that my bro Pacquiao may be on it, too. I really hope I don't offend anyone here.... If Marquez isn't on PEDs, then I stand corrected .-.
Based on what I've read around the internet from "big" boxing sites: Marquez hires Angel Hernandez, previously known as Angel Heredia, a known PED distributor. Balloons in size at the age of 39 (faster than Pacquiao IIRC). Pacquiao smaller than Marquez in part 3. Pacquiao looked derpy. Rigged fight in favor of Pacquiao. Next year, Roach calls foul play on Hernandez/Heredia, saying Marquez is on steroids. Alex Ariza cries foul play on Roach, saying that Heredia won't do what he did in the past, and they're BFFs. Roach and Pacquiao "oust" Ariza. Roach says stop steroids by taking out weight/body trainers. Ariza complains Pacquiao isn't doing any plyometrics. Roach (and Pacquiao?) requests drug testing. Top Rank declines testing via VADA and USADA, claiming no one requested real drug testing. Then he complains about VADA and USADA being stupid or something. I bet you guys Marquez is going to look like a tank, while Pacquiao will be a midget next week. AND PACQUIAO WILL WIN DUE TO ARUM AND HIS MATCH FIXING ANTICS. CONNECT THE DOTS SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT HERE.
I've been defending Pacquiao from steroid allegations, but something is definitely wrong here. I know this is all speculation and fluff, but seems to me Pacquiao could be on steroids (though I'm still leaning towards he's clean). Ariza linked himself to the PED distributor Heredia. At the same time, Roach says Marquez is roiding and then ousts Ariza from camp who defended Heredia. His remarks against strength coaches was obviously aimed at Ariza and to a lesser extent, the same type of "scientific" strength trainers that Ariza and Heredia "are." Could he be suggesting that Ariza was giving Pacquiao illegal substances? This is what I'm really thinking.....
Another thing is that Arum could be blocking USADA and VADA because obviously, they're catching PEDs. It's reasonable to blast USADA because of their contract with GBP. However, flaming VADA is uncalled for IMO. So yeah, I believe, based on this, Arum knows one or both of the camps are juicing, and he's blocking the testing to avoid losing money from a positive test. Otherwise, the tests would be good publicity for Marquez but more importantly, Pacquiao. He has nothing to lose with a negative test from VADA. Why not take it, Manny? I don't understand why Arum would say no other than someone (or both) is taking PEDs.
Another timely drama came down between Pacquiao and Jingkee. They were fighting during the time of the de la Hoya fight, begging Pacquiao to not go up in weight. Before this came to the media, one of my family friends who is a relative of Pacquiao already said something was wrong between them before the media found out. Their fighting stopped before (or after...) the Mosley fight, which was when, coincidentally, Pacquiao started slowing down. She talked to media saying that she didn't trust her husband during their down time and that she was 100% against him going up in weight, which is now obviously fine now. Perhaps, Pacquiao's loss of speed and their stopped fighting isn't coincidental after all? When she said don't go up in weight, maybe she meant stop taking steroids? Maybe she didn't trust her husband with his weight gain? Divorce is illegal in the Philippines, yet the biggest sports celebrity of the Philippines was close to doing it? Maybe they're not fighting anymore because he isn't taking steroids anymore, which is marked by his sluggish performances during and after Mosley..... DUNNO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, but perhaps he really was juicing. And that's not just an embarrassment to the Philippines (ugh whyyyyyy), it's going to be the final nail in the coffin for boxing if true. Keep in mind though I'm still kinda leaning towards a clean Pacquiao.
Something I'm pretty sure about though is that Marquez is definitely on steroids. Between his fight with the Australian guy and Pacquiao III, he ballooned in size at the age of 38. Between this time, he was working with Heredia. Pacquiao didn't even change as much as Marquez did between his fight with Diaz and de la Hoya. Also, Heredia changed his name when the media came to meet him during the 24/7s. BIG RED LIGHT! Why would you change your name, Angel? I don't understand why someone would create an alias to the general public (aka HBO watchers) unless he was doing something illegal. Conte was one that pointed this out, and they were working together during the BALCO scandal. Something's definitely not right. Now, Pacquiao's arms are smaller than his previous fights, while Marquez's shoulders are now the size of his head (too lazy to find pics, but the 24/7s show Marquez's size). They weren't like that before until this incoming fight... And is it really possible for a 39 year old to get that big in such a short amount of time and improve in performance? UGH Sorry if there are Mexicans on this board that follow boxing, but dunno, I really think he's on PEDs, and there's a possibility that my bro Pacquiao may be on it, too. I really hope I don't offend anyone here.... If Marquez isn't on PEDs, then I stand corrected .-.
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