Champions League 2016/17

Jenks

Senior Member
Baterred 4-0?

Yes.

We also came back and won 6-1 didn't we.

Which is very impressive, but let's not ignore how terrible PSG were. I can't remember the last time a side with a questionable defence won the Champions League. They usually get found out eventually. I'm not saying Barca can't or won't win it, but I see no reason to have them as my favourites when Bayern are playing like they are.
 

Altomonte

New member
Bayern took twice advantage of Arsenal defense without Koscielny. Watch both matches BEFORE Koscielny exit and they are no longer such a formidable team.
 

Neymessi

Active member
Yes.



Which is very impressive, but let's not ignore how terrible PSG were. I can't remember the last time a side with a questionable defence won the Champions League. They usually get found out eventually. I'm not saying Barca can't or won't win it, but I see no reason to have them as my favourites when Bayern are playing like they are.

Bayern are playing like what? Winning bundesliga that they would win with their eyes closed? They have only faced atletico, one top side yet and the result was 1-0 to both home teams in 2 legs. Arsenal is a joke in CL and anhilating them isn't a big deal. They haven't done anything that suggests they are favorites ahead of us. They have in fact been playing worse than what they usually play in their league this season.

We are ahead of bayern as favorites in almost all major betting sites odds and rightly so. These sites are very close to the actual chances of something hapenning no matter if most agree or not. Thats not to say we will definitely win or something but we sure are favorites.
 

Garrus

New member
LOL, Bayern fear-mongering again, Just like with every season.
It looks like getting continuously kicked out by Spanish teams with a nice sprinkle of thrashing one might add didn't remove this fake invincibility halo they have.
RM managed to grab more CL in the last 10 years than bayern did :lol:
 

BarcaOG

Banned
the next round will feature a clash between two contenders. it might easily be us vs Real/Bayern/Atleti.

Though I imagine Real will get Sevilla/City/Dortmund--opponents they can beat over two legs. As usual.
 

Jenks

Senior Member
Bayern are playing like what? Winning bundesliga that they would win with their eyes closed? They have only faced atletico, one top side yet and the result was 1-0 to both home teams in 2 legs. Arsenal is a joke in CL and anhilating them isn't a big deal. They haven't done anything that suggests they are favorites ahead of us. They have in fact been playing worse than what they usually play in their league this season.

We are ahead of bayern as favorites in almost all major betting sites odds and rightly so. These sites are very close to the actual chances of something hapenning no matter if most agree or not. Thats not to say we will definitely win or something but we sure are favorites.

I think you're wearing blue and maroon tinted glasses if you're saying that Barcelona have looked better in the Champions League this season than Bayern.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
The odds offered by the betting sites don't mean much in my opinion. As an ardent follower of Buli I would say Bayern look better than us right now (a moth ago they were bad but has really turned things around since) and it has nothing to do with fear, just call it as it is. We played well and much better in the last two games we did for sure. But that is not to say our many problems have disappeared. Real Madrid on the other hand has been as inconsistent as we have been and I don't see us being that much better than them. All three along with Juventus have a serious shot in winning the CL but if there is one team that stands out a little more I would say it is Bayern right now.

But then again it is football and anything can happen on the pitch.
 
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The odds offered by the betting sites don't mean much in my opinion. As an ardent follower of Buli I would say Bayern look better than us right now (a moth ago they were bad but has really turned things around since) and it has nothing to do with fear, just call it as it is. We played well and much better in the last two games we did for sure. But that is not to say our many problems have disappeared. Real Madrid on the other hand has been as inconsistent as we have been and I don't see us being that much better than them. All three along with Juventus have a serious shot in winning the CL but if there is one team that stands out a little more I would say it is Bayern right now.

But then again it is football and anything can happen on the pitch.

I make Bayern, Dortmund and Juventus the favourites, although anything can changw. It's a shame that (both) Madrids went through.
 

TrueCule

Member
We're the clear favorites to win the CL. We can make a comeback from the 4:0 deficit in the first leg and conceding an away goal. After this, what can stop us from taking the CL? We already hit the bottom against PSG in February and against Atletico in the second leg of the Copa semifinals. Our form can only go upwards from now on. I don't see anyone stopping us from getting the CL and possible the treble.
 

Lomar1o

Active member
We're the clear favorites to win the CL. We can make a comeback from the 4:0 deficit in the first leg and conceding an away goal. After this, what can stop us from taking the CL? We already hit the bottom against PSG in February and against Atletico in the second leg of the Copa semifinals. Our form can only go upwards from now on. I don't see anyone stopping us from getting the CL and possible the treble.

RM, Bayern, Atleti, Juve and hell, even Dortmund are no p*ssies like PSG/City. They would never blow 4-0 lead away against us and they would never play like PSG did in the second leg. That's just my opinion
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
We're the clear favorites to win the CL. We can make a comeback from the 4:0 deficit in the first leg and conceding an away goal. After this, what can stop us from taking the CL? We already hit the bottom against PSG in February and against Atletico in the second leg of the Copa semifinals. Our form can only go upwards from now on. I don't see anyone stopping us from getting the CL and possible the treble.

Literally anything. For example a header or two in the dying minutes?

Having optimism is great, but let's not let the historical comeback cloud our judgement. We are still shaky on many fronts.
 

Neymessi

Active member
I think you're wearing blue and maroon tinted glasses if you're saying that Barcelona have looked better in the Champions League this season than Bayern.

Never said anything related to us doing better in champions league than bayern.

You came up with the idea that they are favorites ahead of us which I disputed. And you came up with this strawman claim.
 

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