Champions League 2016/17

Yannik

Senior Member
He´s not a winger. I follow him since he was 18 in Benfica. Number 10. Since Monaco plays 4.4.2 he play between the wing to defend and on the middle when attacking because the wingers are the fullback..

I tried to get some actual data on this and stumbled upon his Action zone. It still looks like most of his action zone is glued to the wing with only the occasional coming from vertically behind the attacking rows.

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for now these look just like random dots, so I was trying to get some perspective. DonAK compared him to "among the closest things to Iniesta", so I went out to the last game Iniesta played 90 mins, which was vs Villareal

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Looks a lot more centered. As expected, holding mid after all.
I also tried to submit passing maps but for some reason Barcaforum tells me my images are too big or so, so we gotta work with this. Basically Iniesta would distribute the ball in midfield towards the wings and the strikers. However, Silva already is on the wings, his passing ways go back into the center to create chances or cross to the strikers.

I see fairly different roles here, Silva is a great playmaker and pacy dribbler, but Iniesta basically made play on the whole pitch. He'd collect balls deep, even from CBs and distributed them. Something Bernardo isn't really doing, except when there's a counter. And this is where I see Barcas problems, not in the attack or in playmaking, but in the transition from defense to midfield. That's why your CBs look so troubled in possession, because noone from the midfield really helps out here. Iniesta was also decent at pressing and winning the ball, Bernardo however is more comfortable in possession than without it. As you said it: He's a number 10 on the wings.

From what I see it Bernardo would be a great asset to your offense, but is that really the priority here? Your forwards are gunning down almost everything ffs. Verratti seemed like ann ill fit for how well he did everywhere on the pitch, but Bernardo Silva is a very different player and I don't see him in the Holding mid role that Barca demands from him. I expect this to work out similar to James at Madrid, who play a similar system. James was also a nice asset to the attack, but in the end you'd want actual specialists for your CMs.

I feel like we've reacheda point where people consider everything that can pass & dribble as the greatest CM evarrr. It's not that easy.
 
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DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Oh yeah @Yannik

If you look at my plan for the next season then I say I would sign a CM and Bernardo Silva. Who that CM would be is a question mark for now though. I mentioned Dahoud, but he's going to Dortmund. Bernardo could be a fantastic asset as an attacking midfielder along with a CM who's also good defensively in a functional system based on midfield dominance.

We tried to sign Koke three years ago, but he rejected our offer, although if Simeone leaves this season I would make another offer for him. Apparently Atletico might need to sell one player due to how they financed their stadium, and even if Koke is a homeboy of theirs, if we can convince him, they might sell to keep Griezmann there. They got Saul and some other youth players in that position so they could make it work somehow.

I see someone like Koke as someone who can be immense for Barca. Able to orchestrate play, link-up with team mates, makes himself available, passes between the lines and is also creative. Has played very well with Busquets at the Spanish National Team too. It seems unlikely, but if I was Robert Hernandez or the Barcelona President in real life, I would definitely make an effort to convince him. After all, what do you lose? If he says no, then try to find someone else :coffee:
 
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Yannik

Senior Member
Oh yeah @Yannik

If you look at my plan for the next season then I say I would sign a CM and Bernardo Silva. Who that CM would be is a question mark for now though. I mentioned Dahoud, but he's going to Dortmund. Bernardo could be a fantastic asset as an attacking midfielder along with a CM who's also good defensively in a functional system based on midfield dominance.

We tried to sign Koke three years ago, but he rejected our offer, although if Simeone leaves this season I would make another offer for him. Apparently Atletico might need to sell one player due to how they financed their stadium, and even if Koke is a homeboy of theirs, if we can convince him, they might sell to keep Griezmann there. They got Saul and some other youth players in that position so they could make it work somehow.

I see someone like Koke as someone who can be immense for Barca. Able to orchestrate play, link-up with team mates, makes himself available, passes between the lines and is also creative. Has played very well with Busquets at the Spanish National Team too. It seems unlikely, but if I was Robert Hernandez or the Barcelona President in real life, I would definitely make an effort to convince him. After all, what do you lose? If he says no, then try to find someone else :coffee:

that sounds reasonable. You definitely need a real CM at this point, it's gonna make things much more pleasant everywhere on the pitch. If that works, THEN I'd go for Silva as the icing on the cake. But for as long the whole defensive- and playing out of the back issue isn't resolved, I wouldn't drop anyone for another no. 10 in an attempt to just outscore your opponent. MSN is ridiculous, with them upfront you can afford to drop a bit firepower for stability.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I should learn Catalan, get rich asf and run for Barcelona Presidency in 10-15 years. :coffee:

Easier said than done though :benitez:
 
ffs he didn't know what he wanted to do :lol:

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Jenks

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ffs he didn't know what he wanted to do :lol:

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He was gonna do a Mourinho style slide and then had second thoughts.
 
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