Champions League 2017/18

Ghostmaster

Danger Ahead
Emery said he wants same refere with the same "at home" referee, when you favore the home team. We will see but not optimistic.

Video should be implemented ASAP.

Don't like VAR, I watched English FA cup when Liverpool was playing and it was complete nonsense, the game was stop after each disputable incident, players were standing and waiting while referee was talking to his headseat and then he goes to watch the video himself and even then it's hard to determine if the player dived or he fell down because he was pushed.
 

Lutece FC

New member
Don't like VAR, I watched English FA cup when Liverpool was playing and it was complete nonsense, the game was stop after each disputable incident, players were standing and waiting while referee was talking to his headseat and then he goes to watch the video himself and even then it's hard to determine if the player dived or he fell down because he was pushed.

Saw VAR for a League Cup match Rennes vs Paris S.G. and it was ok. Thanks to video, they refuse a fake goal (handball) for Rennes. Without the video it would be validated.

Today the stake is too important.
 

Lutece FC

New member
How is this guy still on the forum? It’s like Dalitis reborn with the shit he constantly spews. Constant vacuous rubbish and he admitted he posts before he thinks :lol:

I don't know if you're talking about the so-called Ousmane Dembélé, because i blocked him. This guy is a massive troll, he acts like a kid.

I bet he's a 14 years old teanager who posts during his lessons in school. Nothing intresting, zero analyze.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Kroos was offside in the action of the penalty

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For people who said, "well in champions league you're favored at home ... we will see. I don't remember Paris being favored last year in round of 16.. But i remember Real favored vs Bayern.
UEFA is disgusting.

I agree with this. One of the reasons the competition is flawed. Too many important moments are decided by luck in its various forms (one of them being refs if we don't believe the conspiracy theories). But that's the competition. PSG was also favored in some cases.

This is at 1-0 for Barca in the CL quarters in Paris.

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serghei

Senior Member
It puts a sour taste in the mouth.

Btw, Pique himself said it would be a not so successful season. Perhaps the players themselves don't rate a domestic double over the big one.

That's rubbish from Pique though, and just plain jealousy over Madrid's run in CL in recent years. I get the huge popular appeal of the CL despite its problems but to say a domestic double is anything less than a great season is just rubbish.

Just because we basically monopolized football in Spain in the last 4 years (less so last season, but even in that season we came a win vs Malaga short of winning another double) it doesn't mean it is easy. Different teams have different things that they find to be harder. Barcelona is a league team, Madrid is a Cup team.

Madrid find it very hard to keep the same level for a sustained period of time (they go up and down like crazy), so they do better in competitions that consist of fewer games (CL is basically 7 games spread over 4-5 months, february, march, april, may and early june). They find it easier to concentrate on individual games, and struggle to handle a season with its full implications. Barcelona find it easier to maintain a good level of play for an extended period of time, but are also more likely to be caught cold in some games.

By being very sharp on some nights, and poor in others, you don't have the consistency that is needed to win La Liga or any serious league, but you can win the CL if you are fresh and strong at important times. If you are very strong over almost a full year, but you have moments of poor fitness, or moments of low motivation that happen to set in at the wrong time, you can't win CL, but you can win the league.

The greatest thing, the hardest thing to do in club football, is to be consistently strong enough to win the league (talking about hard leagues, elite ones, like Spain and Premier League atm, wouldn't call others even close to being elite), and still be able to provide higher peaks at precisely the right time to win the CL. That's the ideal we should pursue, not to 'prioritize' this or that. That's a bullshit word anyway.

The challenge when you work hard in the league day in day out playing top football and racking up points after points, is that you meet teams in Europe that are fresher than you and not as physically and mentally exhausted from having to take on the pressure to win each week. Teams that have nothing to fight for in their league, sitting 3rd and 4th, with the CL spot almost in the bag, and they can just pace themselves for these individual games in CL, while you can't afford that luxury because you need to beat basically everybody, almost everytime. Or, if you don't meet this kind of teams, you meet big teams that play in poorer leagues where the other teams are Europa League material, so they don't have to work very hard to win the title in their country.

The conditions are just different. Only team that is comparable to Barca atm is Manchester City. The only team that have taken on the challenge to win everything. Not giving up even in the domestic cups.

And the solution is not to just take it easy in some competition or another (especially not in the big 2), but to fight hard and win them all. That's should be the ideal to pursue each season.
 
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El Gato

Villarato!
Block me or shut the fuck up, no need to post just to try to take some sort of moral high ground.

Oh you've been blocked for a long time, ever since you've had that very first meltdown after Supercopa. Problem is I still have to read your shitstain quality posts whenever you get quoted and I feel sad each time I do.

2000 posts since August and 95% of them are of that lovely quality. Go figure fella, go figure :lol:
 

serghei

Senior Member
Fuenlabrada and Dijon trolling PSG. :lol:

PSG are the most expensive comedy act ever assembled.
 
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beck123

Banned
They act like Real Madrid from 2003-2010.
Bunch of expensive and overpaid players unable to qualify further than Round of 16
As a Real Madrid fan, I watched my team getting eliminated by Roma, Lyon in Round of 16. Then, we sell all f*cking chokers like Higuain, Gago, Diarra etc, and we managed to reach semi finals in 2011, and in 2014 we win LA DECIMA.

But the problem with PSG is that their club have CHOKER DNA.
Sadly, you can't change that. They can bring Messi, Ronaldo, Neuer, they still won't win CL.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
I couldn't give two fucks about you or your opinion, if you don't like reading opinions you disagree do yourself a favour and get off the internet. I can't help you if you get emotional on an online forum.

Either respond to my argument or take a hike, no need to act like a smug, condescending, sanctimonious cunt.

Nah, far from something I'd put any effort into. There's nothing serious there to respond to as has already been highlighted by other users. Can't agree or disagree with a user who writes every day changing his mind on the fly like Hugh Hefner changing his favourite brothel. It's good that I've hit a nerve though. Must feel nice to know you're everybody's laughing stock :D

More than happy to trade insults though! It's fun actually! Usually results in an infraction at most at this forum, unless you were to poke Galning with a stick, but I don't think he's even here anymore so life is good! Barcaman or El Flaco can clean up the mess if they don't like it. Conveniently there are 2000 posts by the same user that can be basically thrown in the dumpster without anybody noticing so not that difficult of a job.
 
That's rubbish from Pique though, and just plain jealousy over Madrid's run in CL in recent years. I get the huge popular appeal of the CL despite its problems but to say a domestic double is anything less than a great season is just rubbish.

No, he's right. We have been way too poor in the CL in recent years. I'm sick and tired of getting knocked out in the quarters and letting Madrid walk to the title year after year. It's high time for that to change. CDR means jack shit when you struggle in the round of 16 and get destroyed in the quarters in the CL. Seems the players realize that too.

If we have yet another underwhelming CL run, something needs to change.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
No, he's right. We have been way too poor in the CL in recent years. I'm sick and tired of getting knocked out in the quarters and letting Madrid walk to the title year after year. It's high time for that to change. CDR means jack shit when you struggle in the round of 16 and get destroyed in the quarters in the CL. Seems the players realize that too.

If we have yet another underwhelming CL run, something needs to change.

It's not a matter of Copa del Rey vs CL. Has no relation. We've played just two games more than Madrid in Copa. Rubbish to claim that is the reason we struggle in CL. We struggle in CL because we've had by far the worst draws in recent years, because we've always been fighting hard for La Liga each season and that takes its toll obviously compared with other teams who are just happy to end up 2nd or 3rd or whatever, and because of poor tactics and poor finishing on those CL nights. We were in a bad slump when we played Atletico in 15-16, and last year Lucho was just shambles with tactics and pretty much everything.

Madrid are the strongest team in CL, and it's not only luck and fortunate referee calls in their favor. Doesn't mean that if we do what they do which is play poor in La Liga and turn up in CL as if you're pushing a switch, we will win the Champions League that way. When we win the Champions League we do it because we're simply the best team, by way of outplaying each opponent. Such was the case in 2006, 2009, 2011 and 2015. Madrid can win the CL while being the 3rd best team in Spain, on pens., in extra time, with offside goals, they can win the CL in any possible way, being favorites, underdogs, getting there through piss easy draws, you name it. The just know how to win this competition. It's tailor made for them.

We only know how to win it by playing our brand of football and outplaying teams. When our level is high enough and we do that, those are some of the most one sided and dominating campaigns you've ever seen in CL. That's how it is. Some teams do better under this format than others.
 
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