Champions League 2017/18

beck123

Banned
Guardiola, what a fraud :lol:

ofc he can't win CL with another team, since he don't have Messi to dribble an entire team and score, or a midfield formed by Xavi+Iniesta who can control the game. :D :D

With Barca squad from 2009-2012, even Brendan Rogers can win a treble.

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BBZ8800

Senior Member
I was saying for Months that (imo) there is no way that a Pep's team can win a CL after 2011.

His style is so fckng outdated, and he doesn't get it.
Sadly, probably 80% of this forum also doesn't get how Pep's style is NOT the way to go in a CL knockout matches.

In short:
That style is awesome for La Liga, Bundesliga and EPL where majority of matches are against Getafe, Las Palmas, West Ham and Stoke.
Pep's style is a GOAT style for league competitions and for breaking records in league competitions.

In a CL, Pep and Barca past 2011:
Barca defeated before a final in:
2012
2013
2014
2016
2017

Pep knocked out before a final after 2011:
Barca 2012
Bayern 3 years
City 2 years

Barca and Pep together reached only 1 CL final after 2011, in 11 attempts (Barca 6 attempts, Pep 6 attempts, but 1 of them was with Barca).

People need to realize and distinguish:
1. there is a winning formula for a league competition=Pep's style
2. there is a winning formula for a CL, past 2011=technique+a lot of physique and a tactics which requires 2-3 different styles like shortpassing, crosses, longballs, counters, corners and similar, unlike Pep's style=shortpasses with physically weak players and no plan B.

This is NOT an attack on Barca's legacy.
This is a lesson how football is evolving and this naive style is not working in a CL anymore.
Pep will never learn, we all know that, let's just hope that more guys on this forum will slowly accept this.

Luckily, EV knows this and we are with huge chances in a CL.
Unlike naive Pep.
 

ThwiX

Best midfielder around
So Liverpool, a hot n’ cold Bayern and an exhausted Barcelona up against what seems like an unstoppable Real Madrid side. I feel the depression slowly creeping in. I guess I will have to tell myself life is so more than just football at the end of this season too.
 

utility73

Senior Member
Every coach has his tactical weak spot(s). If you happen to run into teams able and willing to exploit them at the wrong time then you go out.
On the other hand you can have a lot of luck and win silverware without actually knowing at all what you are doing like Di Matteo in 2012.

Still in order for Pep to really be the considered the very best he should also be able to adapt to such hyperaggressive pressing teams like Liverpool.
 
Big headed Guardiola will never admit that playing defensive football is and should be a strategy that can be used in your favor.
He could have gotten us many more CL if he weren't so stubborn.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Anyway, Pep's solution in the 2nd half:
= plays exactly the same and repeat the same action for 100 times more and hope that they will magically score.

Pep in a summer of 2019 and his solution for the next season:
= buy even more expensive physically weak midfielders and attackers
= and play exactly the same as always, and hope that it will suddenly magically start to work in a CL knockout matches.

This Pep guy is the biggest troll out there.
 
At the beginning of the season I predicted that we would win la Liga and go far in the CL, although we would not win it.
Real Madrid will more likely win it b.c they are in great physical form.
You gotta give Zinade credit for knowing how to prepare his teams to reach the last part of the season in good physical form.
 

Hamzah

High Definition Member
Anyway, Pep's solution in the 2nd half:
= plays exactly the same and repeat the same action for 100 times more and hope that they will magically score.

Pep in a summer of 2019 and his solution for the next season:
= buy even more expensive physically weak midfielders and attackers
= and play exactly the same as always, and hope that it will suddenly magically start to work in a CL knockout matches.

This Pep guy is the biggest troll out there.

True
 

Jenks

Senior Member
Big headed Guardiola will never admit that playing defensive football is and should be a strategy that can be used in your favor.
He could have gotten us many more CL if he weren't so stubborn.

Trying to be more defensive is the reason they're in this mess.
 

utility73

Senior Member
Yeah well, City players can go on vacation after the weekend and Pep can begin planning how to bottle next years CL campaign :)
 

Givenchy

Senior Member
Guardiola, what a fraud :lol:

ofc he can't win CL with another team, since he don't have Messi to dribble an entire team and score, or a midfield formed by Xavi+Iniesta who can control the game. :D :D

With Barca squad from 2009-2012, even Brendan Rogers can win a treble.

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don't be retarded now. this myth that anyone can manage Barca is ridiculous
 

beck123

Banned
don't be retarded now. this myth that anyone can manage Barca is ridiculous

This is the truth mate, don't get angry.

With Messi in the team and prime Xavi/Iniesta, every coach can do it. Stop be deluded


EDIT: Do you mean Lucho is some genius that made Barca won the treble 3 years ago? Nah, Barca won because of MSN brilliance, nothing more.
 
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Givenchy

Senior Member
This is the truth mate, don't get angry.

With Messi in the team and prime Xavi/Iniesta, every coach can do it. Stop be deluded

It's not the truth and I'm not angry atall, that is a myth. I guess Zidane is a tactical genius right? with the best midfield in the world (Kroos-Modric) with one of the greatest of all time (Ronaldo). anyone could manage this Madrid side
 

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