Champions League Semi Final: Liverpool - FC Barcelona 4-3 agg.

[Ahmedd]

Alisson got us out with Roma last year...just realized that

 

[stb_1]

Liverpool = TEAM
Ajax = TEAM
Barcelona = Great Individuals, bad team

 

[RomanianCule]

Sorry my bad English but I had to write this letter to have my feelings out.

It is very clear that we lack physicality and muscularity.

Of course Barcelona DNA is built on intelligence, technicality and teamwork - but even in the glory days we had various negro workers with physicality and drive. Now? A team of slow dwarfs. Even our non-technical players are weak like Rakitic. Sergi Roberto has no business at right back...he is one of the least physical players in history. He might not even have a place in the team. Lenglet? A symbol for everything wrong with this team.

Unfortunately our negro players such as Dembele, Semedo and Malcom also cannot be trusted. Maybe they have the physicality but they have zero brain. I know there is a trade off, but the small amount they bring is not enough to accept the deal.

Look at Mane, Wijnaldum, Fabinho, Arnold, Origi....these negro players are VITAL to the team for their running for 90 minutes, physical strength. Maybe none are at the pinnacle of technical quality but they make the team function cohesively.

We are a team of physically weak, slow, sideways passers...a few brainless clowns, and Messi.

Our first thought should be Pogba, Kante, Ferland Mendy etc.

 

[Potroh]

Valverdes expression each time the camera zooms in on him is exactly like his Barca.

True...
No smiles, no creativity, no zeal, no spontaneity, no enthusiasm.
Just the face of a rotten cucumber, trying to hide behind Messi's genius...

 

[Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor]

Firstly, I hope not to get banned. But, I said earlier, may the best team win.

And I believe that happened tonight, the first leg saw you 3 nil winners. Clinical in front of goal and looked dangerous every rime you went forward.

But I don't think that score gave a fair view of how that first leg played out.

At anfield, it was always going to be Alot harder for Barcelona. And to be quite honest, Liverpool wanted every single ball more.

Without firmino and Salah, I'm speechless but not surprised tbh. Coutinho was, well, was he even playing?

Best team over the 2 legs won, and won fairly.

All of a sudden it was a fair game? That's funny because after the 1st leg all I heard was Liverpool crying. Your petition against Messi will go down in infamy and lets not forget about your 4am fireworks to wake up Mr Messi and the fountain incident. Your forums were full of some of the most hateful twisted deluded nonsense I have ever had the displeasure of reading. You may have won but you shamed your club and country with your behaviour.

 

[jairzinho]

I talk to people with respect here and expect the same. That's the second time you have replied in a rude way. If you can't be civilized then don't reply to my posts.

Pardon the bitterness mate but ur logic is incomprehensible. To blame this scandal partly on the fanbase is something I don’t agree with. If you look objectively at Valgreen, you’ll realize that the red flags were there all along. So it’s understandable that many fans would be not have been totally confident throughout the season and going into this game. Valgreen and his suspect tactical approaches and his general cowardice is the reason behind this.

 

[El Chedlo]

My woman leaving me is now only the second worst thing to happen to me this week....fml

You'll be fine, brother.

 

[Ahmedd]

Agreed - it's a combination of quality, mentality and leadership issues.

1) Quality: Bunch of players are simply not good enough - we all know who they are, so I won't mention specific names. Our coach is also severely limited in terms of tactics, and I'm even saying it nicely
2) Mentality: Body language and mentality of team is out of whack. Body language and on-the-pitch attitude of key players like Suarez (arguing, fighting, simulating) and Coutinho (simply looks disinterested) has been woeful. I think the coach has no real control of the team - he has a few favorites (every coach does, anyway) whom he relies on whether they perform or not. Very little merit seems to be applied to starting XI.
3) Leadership: Our team has not been mentally strong since Puyol left. Messi is a genius, but I don't think he's a leader in terms of rallying the troops. He leads in his own way, but doing everything himself because that's what he's good at.. performing miracles. But in future we need someone who can knock sense into players' head and motivate them mentally. Ultimately, the most important leader is the coach, and Valverde has shown himself too small to be a leader. Klopp, Zidane, Cholo - these are exemplary leaders.

Looking forward to rebuilding our team, but it is truly painful to watch a potential great team get humiliated repeatedly, mostly from our own doings.
simply rely on Messi for a miracle.. that's poor mentality - suppresses overall potential of overall team. In terms of leadership, we don't really have a leader on the pitch to rally the team

I'm 100% with you.

I think that next year is going to be very exciting, with RM getting back in the buisness for la liga. Barcelona thrived when RM was at his peak under Mourinho. In 2015, even if Ney wasn't perfect he was way better than Dembouz/Cou/Malcolm, we had Iniesta and a proper RB. De Jong is coming, he is no Iniesta but at least we can work something with our new mid players. Semedo has to play, I love bob but he is wasting that position. Etc etc.. There is so many things to talk about. I hope that this board lose the next elections, they killed Barca's DNA.

 

[Barcilliant]

This is the badge of shame this club will wear forever sadly.

Valverde should have resigned asap and the seniors should look at moving or a bench role.

La liga has been poor this season and the cl results show that.

It's time to be ruthless now. We don't even have money to spend. It's time for a new board, new coach and new team.

 

[ArtistCatalunya]

Anyone can tell us where to find the stats of the WORKATE of this match ? I want to know about the workrate of both teams. I'm sure there is a big difference; we're too slow and passive!
+ We have 6 starter players who have more than 30 years. That's a lot! Considering that we didn't play to dominate the midfield and the ball, we played to defend ! lol. At least we should have played Arthur to defend with ball posssession!

 

[Pfmpd1]

All of a sudden it was a fair game? That's funny because after the 1st leg all I heard was Liverpool crying. Your petition against Messi will go down in infamy and lets not forget about your 4am fireworks to wake up Mr Messi and the fountain incident. Your forums were full of some of the most hateful twisted deluded nonsense I have ever had the displeasure of reading. You may have won but you shamed your club and country with your behaviour.

Well let's reverse it a little. A fiar game? We played against barca playing dark arts. Nothing wrong with that really. Thats experience.

Fair? Suarez purposely injuring Robertson? That was fair?

Spanish police taking tickets off Liverpool fans in Barcelona? Oh, that wasn't on you tube was it like the fountain videos?

Which the couple of people that did that I thought were two nobs that can't handle their ale and should be chinned in return.

Fireworks outside the hotel I've not seen so can't comment,and the petition against Messi again I didn't partake in it.

So by your comment, I take it you think barcelona was hard done by?

 

[xxxxxx]

I don't get how a manager can throw away a 3 goal advantage 2 years in a row. It's unheard of. No other top team would do that.

Valverde tries to set up this "attacking" football, but he doesn't have the midfield for it. We have no creativity in the midfield if you have Vidal, Rakitic and Busquets as your starting midfield. There's literally no control with that midfield. It's a dangerous formation to have if you have no creativity in the midfield. They're too defensive.... and those 3 players can't really pass the ball all that well. He might as well went with a 4411 and had Roberto/Arthur in the midfield and Semedo starting at RB. We literally could have afforded to sit deep and frustrate Liverpool and got them on the counter-attack tonight. I think if you're going to have a 433 formation, you need to have pace in your team..... like Malcom and Semedo. Then you need someone who can control the tempo in the midfield, someone like Arthur.

Hey, but what do I know? I'm not getting paid millions like that idiot in charge.

 

[Centauri B]

Firstly, I hope not to get banned. But, I said earlier, may the best team win.

And I believe that happened tonight, the first leg saw you 3 nil winners. Clinical in front of goal and looked dangerous every rime you went forward.

But I don't think that score gave a fair view of how that first leg played out.

At anfield, it was always going to be Alot harder for Barcelona. And to be quite honest, Liverpool wanted every single ball more.

Without firmino and Salah, I'm speechless but not surprised tbh. Coutinho was, well, was he even playing?

Best team over the 2 legs won, and won fairly.

At the end of the day, football is a sport that requires a lot of running, and we cannot do that. We have 7 players over 30. Liverpool has one. That is the main difference, everything else is noise.

We need to rebuild and that's the end of it. Liverpool taught us that in the clearest way possible.

 

[Potroh]

Origi milner shakiri.. lmao... all are never world class players, you can make a case for some of them being ex-lords lmao.. we were crushed 4-0 by some good ole lordslmao

This team would have been crashed by anyone with enough zeal and winning mentality.
But winning mentality is rarely the one that says: "Let's defend, let's get through this by trying to keep the ball, and maybe - just maybe - score a single goal to be sure...

But the problem has been: No tactics whatsoever. No unexpected moves. No creativity.
Playing Semedo in the place of the never been defender Roberto (or vice verse) is NOT tactics - and I repeat myself for the 100th time here.

Being highly dependent on Alba's lonely runs is NOT tactics again, specially not if he makes huge mistakes while defending.
Hoping that the rapidly declining Suarez will have an exceptional day (out of 7-8 games) is NOT tactics.

You simply cannot play these important games WITHOUT ANY TACTICS.

 

[raedkuwait]

I totally was expecting this after rome game last year with EV in charge, but cant get over it, wtf we have become the laughing stock of CL we cant score one goal if our life is on the line, EV has no creativity no clues at all no tactics just depends on messi to bail us out. Am not sure i can sleep
Tonight fuck u EV pls just fucking leave already