Champions League Semi Final: Liverpool - FC Barcelona 4-3 agg.

messi2140

6racies Xavi
Man I still can't believe we lost to this

#LFC v Barcelona: Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson; Fabinho, Henderson, Milner; Shaqiri, Origi, Mane.

What an absolute embarrassment. And some people have the audacity to say that Barca's team isn't good enough :facepalm:
 

Jaguar

Flair Trait
Just before the match, Valverde told the players to try avoid what happened with Roma last year. Great for motivating the players. What a complete idiot. He legit is a manager to force the player to bottle it and give them a weak mindset. I'm not even watching the CDR final if he is still manager.
 

Devils

Senior Member
Messi, Alba, Pique and Vidal are the only players from last nights match that keep the starting spots.

The rest of them can fuck off
 

Potroh

New member
I'm thinking Xavi is the only one, get the players motivated again and to go back to the passing possession football that is in Barca DNA.

No.
"passing possession football" WAS Barca DNA, but that area is over.
The world of football is not stationary.
Barca won the "possession figures" by 55:45 yesterday and was still much inferior.

Xavi could be a future coach at Barca but definitely NOT right after he retired.
A friend and an ex-teammate cannot really motivate his pals.
He needs some time and gathered experience first, then he could be a likable option.
 

wisconsincule

Senior Member
Wow this one really hurts. Unfortunately it seems like this was our last chance. A fully fit Liverpool would have destroyed us. When we first had the draw I knew the second leg at Anfield would be tough but after having a 3 goal advantage I didn’t think they would put up this spineless effort again.
 

Howlgrana

New member
No.
"passing possession football" WAS Barca DNA, but that area is over.
The world of football is not stationary.
Barca won the "possession figures" by 55:45 yesterday and was still much inferior.

Xavi could be a future coach at Barca but definitely NOT right after he retired.
A friend and an ex-teammate cannot really motivate his pals.
He needs some time and gathered experience first, then he could be a likable option.

Yeah sorry passing possession football is not really what I meant, even though that is a personal dream of mine, I know it doesn't work any more without the supreme skill of Xavi (and a prime Iniesta to compliment). I should have made clear - we need to return to having the best midfielders in the world that can control the flow of the game, we need to return to having a squad where technique and control of the ball is at the forefront. We need to have players that can play around a press or receive the ball in tight spaces. Last night we couldn't string 3 passes together.

And you're right about Xavi, having a manager that is friends with some of the players never works, I've seen this in other sports. So ideally he would take over when Busquets and Pique at least is not in the first team any more.

But that still leaves the question of who takes over from small-time Valverde.
 

Zidane82

Well-known member
Wow this one really hurts. Unfortunately it seems like this was our last chance. A fully fit Liverpool would have destroyed us. When we first had the draw I knew the second leg at Anfield would be tough but after having a 3 goal advantage I didn’t think they would put up this spineless effort again.

That’s the thing ... it could be so much worse .
Had Firmino been fit and played in the Barca game there’s no way we’d have won 3:0 anyways
 

Zidane82

Well-known member
Yeah sorry passing possession football is not really what I meant, even though that is a personal dream of mine, I know it doesn't work any more without the supreme skill of Xavi (and a prime Iniesta to compliment). I should have made clear - we need to return to having the best midfielders in the world that can control the flow of the game, we need to return to having a squad where technique and control of the ball is at the forefront. We need to have players that can play around a press or receive the ball in tight spaces. Last night we couldn't string 3 passes together.

And you're right about Xavi, having a manager that is friends with some of the players never works, I've seen this in other sports. So ideally he would take over when Busquets and Pique at least is not in the first team any more.

But that still leaves the question of who takes over from small-time Valverde.

We should get the Ajax guy to run things for two years and have Xavi working alongside his team .

He’d could move across seamlessly.. bringing FDJ and De Ligt , build the team around those two , Steg in goal ... Messi and Arthur.
 

Potroh

New member
And some people have the audacity to say that Barca's team isn't good enough :facepalm:

Yeah... because Barca is simply not good enough, specially under EV.

- The team has aged and became very slow compared to present tendencies.
- No right back like Alves used to be, who gave the most assists to Messi ever.
- Alba has believed that he is more or less a winger, so weaker when needs to defend against a motivated and good opponent.
- No skilled and attacking minded midfielders. Busi and Rakitic have been good, but their time is over.
- There's a huge gap between the midfield and the 2 and a half attackers, Messi needs to do both tasks alone.
- Suarez has declined a lot, he shouts more and shots less.

- Valverde is a mediocre entity, not capable of working with a Barca team, he has no tactical vision whatsoever.
- Valverde is anything but a brave manager, he is too result-oriented, not noticing at the same time that quality has declined.
- Valverde thought Barca can get through at Anfield by thinking only about the 3:0 at Camp Nou, but he did NOT think about the actual bad performance produced at the 1st leg.

- Valverde is seriously mistaken by thinking he created a team around and for Messi. He created a bad team WITHOUT Messi, regardless the few occasions and favorable results, when Messi was absent.

- Valverde is a faceless, characterless and a mediocre to bad coach, who didn't care for the actual quality of game-play, rather favored tiring, often lucky wins by 1:0 or 2:1.
 

Dimitar

New member
Disgraceful! The disappointment so big it is just unbearable. Second year in a row Barca manages to defeat itself somehow. The defence can't keep up the pressure and the offence is useless and can't score a goal. Nomatter how many goals Barca score in the first match there's no guarantee for the second match with these players. I'm done with Barca! I want to save my nerves..
 

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