Birdy
Senior Member
I am not arguing about Pep's era and later with CR7.
I am saying that Spain didn't dominate pre-Pep:
2006: Barca:Arsenal 2:1
2007: Milan:Liverpool 2:1
2008: Man utd:Chelsea pens
From 2005/06 to 2008, EPL had 4 CL finalists out of 6 spots.
They even had a finalist in 2005: Liverpool:Milan pens
And in 2009: Barca:Man Utd
From 2005 to 2009 final, out of 10 finalists spots:
6 spots England
2 spots Barca
2 spots Milan
Barca did win 2 finals, but I wouldn't call it a domination, it was Barca vs several EPL teams.
That doesn't mean that La Liga dominated EPL, it only meant that BARCA dominated due to Messi-Ronaldinho-Xavi-Iniesta.
Levante and Getafe didn't raise in their quality due to Messi's header in 2009 final.
Yeah you are right about mid 00s
There are always some great teams from other leagues that pop up within the dominance of a certain League, but they are outliers rather than instances of the main trend
If I were to map the trend of dominance the last 30 years, it would be something like:
- early to late 90s: Italian clubs (Milan and Juve in CL, many others in UEFA/Cup Winners)
Van Gaal's Ajax, and Hitschfeld's Dortmund the outliers in that era
-Late 90s to early 00s: Spanish dominance (RM CLs, Valencia finals, and all Spanish teams good in Europe)
Fergie's ManUtd and Bayern the outliers here
- Early 00s to late 00s: English dominance (Liverpool, Utd, Chelsea, even Arsenal made a final)
Rijkaard's Barca and Ancelotti's Milan the outliers here
- Late 00s to mid 10s: Spanish dominance (Pep's Barca, Perez's new Galactico RM, Simeone's Atleti, Emery's Sevilla, etc)
Mou's Inter, both Huynkes' and Pep's Bayern the outliers
- Mid 10s to now: English dominance (Pep's City, Klopp's Liverpool, Poch' Tottenham, recently Tuchel's Chelsea, Utd in Europa)
Flick's Bayern obviously the outlier here, and it seems PSG as well