Champions League

[Horatio]

Greece? You mean were going the greece route?

 

[Porque]

Greece? You mean were going the greece route?

Edited, meant to read Portugal. But yes, channel how Greece done it. Sit back, ride our luck and take our low chance creation thanks to having Messi.

 

[AnfieldEd]

Well to get to the final you'll have to get past Bayern and City so if you do that then no one can say you wouldn't have deserved it.

 

[Vilarrubi]

Well to get to the final you'll have to get past Bayern and City so if you do that then no one can say you wouldn't have deserved it.

Don’t know what you mean, we’ll meet Lyon in Semis then Atalanta or Leipzig in Final.....

 

[malvolio]

I believe that if we somehow get past Bayern, we can go all the way and win it.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

I believe that if we somehow get past Bayern, we can go all the way and win it.

True, that's a big if though. Bayern look great. Massive favourite over us. I think it's either City or Bayern winning it all.

 

[serghei]

Another way of saying the same thing.
When faced with high intensity pressure on their final third, their defenders could not pick the right pass, their midfielders could not make the move to set them free and become passing outlets.
It's the outcome of getting used playing in a league where teams don't do that

Good comments. That's the hallmark of past it teams. The players don't have the legs and the hunger to move around and unlock pressure situations. It's the same for Madrid, and it's the same for Barca.

But, also, this is a weakness of Zidane's tactics. His system doesn't have enough flexibility and fluidity to deal with pressing properly. Guardiola outsmarted him in this tie.

 

[El Gato]

What is Zidane's system?

 

[Morten]

Good comments. That's the hallmark of past it teams. The players don't have the legs and the hunger to move around and unlock pressure situations. It's the same for Madrid, and it's the same for Barca.

But, also, this is a weakness of Zidane's tactics. His system doesn't have enough flexibility and fluidity to deal with pressing properly. Guardiola outsmarted him in this tie.

We deal with pressing better when Ramos is playing though, as he is a much passer than the other CBs, his range of passing really helps.
I dont trust the other cbs to make passes between lines.

But thats not really a system, just relying on individual quality of a certain player.

 

[serghei]

What is Zidane's system?

Rather static positional game with quick switches on the wings, and insistence on crossing. He needed something different for this tie vs City. He needed fluidity in the center to unlock such pressing situations.

We deal with pressing better when Ramos is playing though, as he is a much passer than the other CBs, his range of passing really helps.
I dont trust the other cbs to make passes between lines.

Well, long balls is how City planned to make Madrid play. There were no passes between the line available, because Madrid play a rather static and rigid style, similar to italian football that Zidane played in for a big part of his career.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Good comments. That's the hallmark of past it teams. The players don't have the legs and the hunger to move around and unlock pressure situations. It's the same for Madrid, and it's the same for Barca.

Barca are far more capable of getting the ball from defense to midfield. Midfield struggle with the ball under pressure but they are not same thing.
It seems like minor details but it counts for a lot, with Barca you at least have defensive line to try to save you, with RM even Courtois wasn't there.

 

[El Gato]

Rather static positional game with quick switches on the wings, and insistence on crossing.

That's not a system.

 

[serghei]

Barca are far more capable of getting the ball from defense to midfield. Midfield struggle with the ball under pressure but they are not same thing.
It seems like minor details but it counts for a lot, with Barca you at least have defensive line to try to save you, with RM even Courtois wasn't there.

Yea, let's see them against Bayern and City. We're judging Madrid vs City here.

 

[Porque]

Madrid also lack the passing outlet from the goalkeeper that teams like Liverpool, City and Barcelona have in their goalkeepers. Courtois done some monster saves, yet his passing accuracy also increased the % of Varane's mistake in City's first goal.

Overall Madrid played a decent game and made it uncomfortable at times but undone themselves with their own errors. Missing Ramos and playing the ball out with Courtois were costly.

 

[serghei]

That's not a system.

No, it's a way of playing. I meant that when used the word "system".