Champions League

[serghei]

Ramos, mainly.

It's become apparent that Ramos was the 2nd driving force in the CL runs.

My order's changed to:

CR7
Ramos
Modric
Marcelo

Modric is overrated in terms of impact. I'd add Keylor Navas right after Ramos. Incredibly underrated and with clutch games right when needed most.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Both Barca, and Madrid have been caught in some type of facade rebuild. Like when you commit to something but you're hesitant to go all the way so everything goes to shit.

True. I think Real is a bit ahead but again their midfield is pretty old too or not good.

 

[Morten]

Both Barca, and Madrid have been caught in some type of facade rebuild. Like when you commit to something but you're hesitant to go all the way so everything goes to shit.

Kroos got rested today, but we usually field the same midfield since 2016, Marcelo is still stealing minutes for some reason, then you have guys like Varane who cant lead the defense, despite being here since forever.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Modric is overrated in terms of impact. I'd add Keylor Navas right after Ramos. Incredibly underrated and with clutch games right when needed most.

Navas was key. He even got the choker PSG to CL final.

 

[serghei]

Kroos got rested today, but we usually field the same midfield since 2016, Marcelo is still stealing minutes for some reason, then you have guys like Varane who cant lead the defense, despite being here since forever.

Same with us. It's like rebuild, but not fully committed. Don't know what they are afraid of. Just go all in ffs.

True. I think Real is a bit ahead but again their midfield is pretty old too or not good.

In terms of team no. They are ahead financially because they ran a tighter operation compared with our mess. So they have more money to rebuild.

 

[El Gato]

Kroos got rested today, but we usually field the same midfield since 2016, Marcelo is still stealing minutes for some reason, then you have guys like Varane who cant lead the defense, despite being here since forever.

Not for ‘some reason’. He had to be played here.

 

[Morten]

Ramos, mainly.

It's become apparent that Ramos was the 2nd driving force in the CL runs.

My order's changed to:

CR7
Ramos
Modric
Marcelo

And then great performances from Kroos, Benz, Bale, Di Maria to complement that...no wonder they had so much success. And now all of them are washed up at respective clubs.

Ramos and Ronaldo are not actually washed up, fitness freaks as they are.

 

[KingLeo10]

Same with us. It's like rebuild, but not fully committed. Don't know what they are afraid of. Just go all in ffs.

It's hard to completely bin players who have won multiple CLs for the club. Even the cutthroat RM can't do it much better than us.

 

[Morten]

Not for ‘some reason’. He had to be played here.

Some LB from the youth academy probably will do better than this version of Marcelo, so no, he doesnt have to play.

 

[Devils]

Look at how much money Real Madrid spent on:

-Hazard
-Jovic
-Vinicius
-Rodrygo

Over 300m on average to poor players.

Staggering.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Its like against Moskau 1 year ago. This team cant defend without Ramos.

 

[KingLeo10]

Ramos and Ronaldo are not actually washed up, fitness freaks as they are.

Sort of. But I'm comparing them to their peaks. I guess Ramos is an exception but CR7 has definitely dropped off quite a bit to his 16/17 level.

 

[serghei]

It's hard to completely bin players who have won multiple CLs for the club. Even the cutthroat RM can't do it much better than us.

It's hard. But when you become a joke, just do it.

 

[ronniecro]

At least we get trashed by elite sides and still beat the crap out of the likes of Lyon and Napoli. Shakhtar is even a bit lower than that .

please nothing will ever top embarrasment bayern caused us

 

[messi2140]

Sort of. But I'm comparing them to their peaks. I guess Ramos is an exception but CR7 has definitely dropped off quite a bit to his 16/17 level.

I might be crazy but I feel like Ramos is genuinely is a better player now especially defensively.