Christian Eriksen

Messi983

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I'm happy I wasn't at home so didn't watch those horrible scenes.

Wish Eriksen a fully and speedy recovery.

From what I've seen and read Simon Kjaer is a hero. :worthy: A real captain. Truly unbelieavable how he kept cool head and did everything right in moments when most people would (understandably) be in shock and panic.

Also, respect to Finnish fans who gave their flag so they could cover Eriksen and give him at least some privacy in these tough moments.
 

Zidane82

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It's confirmed he went into cardiac arrest but was able to be revived after one defib.

Horrible stuff. As a footballer myself, these things are horrific

The specialist on the radio said this morning that people have cardiac arrests of their heart suddenly slows down drastically or starts beating far too fast .. Eriksens was the latter .. checking through all previous medical and fitness tests -even back to his Spurs days - they found absolutely nothing out of the ordinary.

The specialist suggested that the most likely cause was that he may have had extremely low salt / sodium levels at that particular moment plus he had just sprinted for the ball about 30 seconds before the guy threw the ball to him
 
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serghei

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The specialist on the radio said this morning that people have cardiac arrests of their heart suddenly slows down drastically or starts beating far too fast .. Eriksens was the latter .. checking through all previous medical and fitness tests -even back to his Spurs days - they found absolutely nothing out of the ordinary.

The specialist suggested that the most likely cause was that he may have had extremely low salt / sodium levels at that particular moment plus he had just sprinted for the ball about 30 seconds before the guy threw the ball to him

I don't think it's normal for your heart to stop in any circumstance tbh. It is a weakness of the heart of some sort. Somewhere there's a problem, they just didn't find it yet.

Not even when you have a major sudden panic attack, and the heart is beating so fast as to get out of your chest, it still does not stop. You faint probably but the heart is still beating within normal limits.
 
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JohnN

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I don't think it's normal for your heart to stop in any circumstance tbh. It is a weakness of the heart of some sort. Somewhere there's a problem, they just didn't find it yet.

Not even when you have a major sudden panic attack, and the heart is beating so fast as to get out of your chest, it still does not stop. You faint probably but the heart is still beating within normal limits.

More so at 29 years old. This shouldn't happen to a young healthy adult. There sure is an underlying problem and they will find it eventually. He will never play football again of course but I don't think anyone cares about that now.
 

Zidane82

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I don't think it's normal for your heart to stop in any circumstance tbh. It is a weakness of the heart of some sort. Somewhere there's a problem, they just didn't find it yet.

Not even when you have a major sudden panic attack, and the heart is beating so fast as to get out of your chest, it still does not stop. You faint probably but the heart is still beating within normal limits.

Like I mentioned his tests were all normal but maybe it was due to a couple of factors. The specialist said low salt/sodium levels plus extreme exertion/exhaustion could trigger an arrest ..
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Low salt/sodium thing I have never heard before.

Sudden cardiac arrests in young athletes while exercising have been frequently reported, and there are many well-know cases (and deaths unfortunately) even in famous footballers (Puerta, Foe, Feher, and others)
The rate of occurrence can rise to 1 in 37,000 in males. Check this journal paper.
It can be deadly at local or amateur level, where no medical professionals and necessary equipment (defibrillators) are around


Now, the causes usually attributed to sudden cardiac arrest while exercising are the following:
hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, arrhythmia, marfan syndrome, and a couple of others I am missing

Problem is that available screening test many times miss tracing such condition before the event.
Apparently, cardiology at the moment hasn't figured out how to determine beforehand which athlete would suffer from a cardiac event
 

Jadentheman

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Probably a perfect storm of factors. Main one being the strain of multiple matches.These players have been playing nonstop for about a year with no major break in sight.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Probably a perfect storm of factors. Main one being the strain of multiple matches.These players have been playing nonstop for about a year with no major break in sight.

Eriksen didn't play much at Inter, so that's out. I looked online and he has well under 2000 mins played this season in Serie A. Doubt overplaying has much to do with it really.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Eriksen didn't play much at Inter, so that's out. I looked online and he has well under 2000 mins played this season in Serie A. Doubt overplaying has much to do with it really.

For years he was one of the craziest runners in the world.

I am not an expert, but that sounds like a possible cause.

About your example with a panic attack, during a panic attack a heart beats fast but in a regular way.
Arrhythmias are random, though.
Majority are benign, but some kills you in 10 seconds due to a random mistake in electrical pulses.

Imo, a huge strain on the heart is also causing random electrical mistakes and arrhythmias.

Also, imo, some players will cover their benign arrhythmias because once it gets public, no top club will hire you anymore.

And then there are random drugs which players get which can't get recognized on tests.
Juve players were accused of a too fast muscle growth in 90s.
Barca were accused of similar things etc.

Some people here don't want to take covid vaccine.
Yet footballers are putting millions of similar drugs in them every week to have more oxygen/specific blood cells/minerals etc.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
And then there are random drugs which players get which can't get recognized on tests.
Juve players were accused of a too fast muscle growth in 90s.
Barca were accused of similar things etc.

When were Barca accused of that?
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
What sort of drugs they need to take in weekly base?

There were talks how in lots of sports players go to some oxygen chambers to raise the level of oxygen or erythrocites/hemoglobin.
Some sportsmen were getting blood transfusion to get more erythrocites because then those can carry more oxygen in blood which means not getting tired as usual.
But those actions are often causing blood clots.

Then millions of vitamins, energy drinks etc.
And a change of electrolite levels can in rare cases cause arrhythmias.

** Birdy, even our father Pep himself was positive and banned from football in early 2000s for taking steroid nandrolone which enhances muscle growth and production of red blood cells (erythrocites) which leads to = more oxygen in a blood and an ability to run longer than before without getting tired.

As I have wrote, Juve was known for a weird muscle growth of their players.
From some of my real life friends I have heard that they are getting tons of vitamins, shakes etc and no one questions too much what is in there.

About Barca, a lot of other fans used to point fingers at us during Pep's era about too much stamina and a possible doping/some new drug.

One article about Nandrolone:
The most common performance-enhancing drug used by footballers in recent years has been nandrolone. The first positive test for the substance in England was in October 2002, by an unnamed player outside the Premiership.

A spate of nandrolone positives the previous year included the Dutchman Jaap Stam, soon after his move from Manchester United to Lazio, and his compatriots Edgar Davids, who served a four-month ban at Juventus, and Frank De Boer (a two-month ban at Barcelona). Fernando Couto (Lazio and Portugal) and Pep Guardiola (Spain and Brescia) also served nandrolone bans in Italy, where 10 tested positive in one season.

In 1999, a Turin magistrate, Raffaele Guariniello, began an investigation into the history of doping in Italian football, identifying 70 "suspicious" deaths among former footballers who had played professionally in Italy between 1960 and 1996. He concluded that consumption of "doping-style substances", perhaps without the players' knowledge, was a possible explanation for statistically high occurrences of various fatal illnesses.

Guariniello's inquiry began when police uncovered 281 types of drugs in a room in a stadium where Juventus trained.

So, who knows how many legal and illegal drugs are players and their doctors using over their career.

You have these players from the article above, who were caught at cheating (Pep, De Boer, Davids from our former players), so ask yourself:
1. do you think that it was the only time in their career when they used illegal things?
2. who knows how many undetectable things they were using?
3. who knows how many other players who weren't caught were taking the same drug or 10 other undetectable drugs
 
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