CL | Round 4: Dynamo Kyiv - FC Barcelona 0-4

kattanib

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Can't see anything positive about Koeman as a manager except the fact that he is a Barca legend. He is like Solskjaer only worse.

Edit: Koeman has three jobs until next summer, removing oldies which he did and playing youngsters which he is doing. Last is landing a champions league spot as well for next season
 

serghei

Senior Member
Koeman has two jobs until next summer, removing oldies which he did and playing youngsters which he is doing. Cannot expect much more other than landing a champions league spot as well for next season

Yea, if you're a mediocre manager, just playing youngsters won't develop them well.

This team is not suited for the 4-2-3-1. If we'd switch to 4-3-3 with Puig - Pedri and Pjanic we'd be better instantly.
 

kattanib

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Yea, if you're a mediocre manager, just playing youngsters won't develop them well.

Honestly reflecting at the past few years, it is not an easy job to break lost amigos and change the starting lineup to be selected based on performance less Griezman
 

kattanib

Well-known member
Yea, if you're a mediocre manager, just playing youngsters won't develop them well.

This team is not suited for the 4-2-3-1. If we'd switch to 4-3-3 with Puig - Pedri and Pjanic we'd be better instantly.

Agree, we have the brain and style to control and build up. Speed wingers approach like in 4231 relies on players that we cannot rely on like Dembele Dest and Trincao
 

serghei

Senior Member
Honestly reflecting at the past few years, it is not an easy job to break lost amigos and change the starting lineup to be selected based on performance less Griezman

Starting to doubt he was the one he broke up the amigos. He's playing Busi non-stop and made Puig a Houdini act. I'm starting to think it was Bartomeu. Didn't he say if it were up to him, Suarez would've stayed?

I see nothing positive about him and his football is worse than Valverde's. Sorry.
 

kattanib

Well-known member
Our best bet is to get Xavi or Pep next summer mainly so that we do not deviate further from 433 and possession based triangle build up style
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Difference between defending with 10 and defending with 9 (Messi playing) is obvious.
You can press high and prevent the opponent from countering. Dynamo did not threaten in the first half.

Then, it's all about breaking a well parked bus down.
You are exaggerating a lot, we are not that bad. That's always a difficult task.

Plus, going from Roberto to Dest as RB is like going from wheelchair to a motorcycle
 

Andresito

Senior Member
Staff member
Our CM's aren't providing anything really. They sit back in attack which means we're attacking with 4 players (LW, CAM, RW & CF) instead of 5 in a 4-3-3 with CM, CM, LW, RW, CF.

A ball playing CM like Pjanic is worthless, because the CM isn't involved.
 

Andresito

Senior Member
Staff member
Difference between defending with 10 and defending with 9 (Messi playing) is obvious.
You can press high and prevent the opponent from countering. Dynamo did not threaten in the first half.

Then, it's all about breaking a well parked bus down.
You are exaggerating a lot, we are not that bad. That's always a difficult task.

Plus, going from Roberto to Dest as RB is like going from wheelchair to a motorcycle

Wheelchair to a Vespa.
 

Joan

Well-known member
That Mingueza kid plays smart for a youngster. Keeps it simple, doesn't try too much.

Having Coutinho and Pedri on at the same time isn't doing us any good.

Such a bore..
 

serghei

Senior Member
Our CM's aren't providing anything really. They sit back in attack which means we're attacking with 4 players (LW, CAM, RW & CF) instead of 5 in a 4-3-3 with CM, CM, LW, RW, CF.

A ball playing CM like Pjanic is worthless, because the CM isn't involved.

We're too slow. Alena takes too many touches. Same as Pedri and Coutinho. Puig would be a better quicker passer than all of them, but this stubborn manager won't give him a single shot.

It's counterintuitive to do flicks and turns standing still like all of our midfielders do. What's the point? Just capture any meter that is given to you. That's what Puig does. If he is given space he claims it and invites pressure.
 

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