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Givenchy

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It really wouldn't come as a surprise. I know a number of private cases where children love their pathological father. A friend of mine lived in a home with her brother for years having to deal with alcohol-induced seizures and violent outbursts, but (luckily...) no sexual abuse. My grandpa was a boozer and died aged 54, dad told me quite a few juicy stories on the matter too. Arguably the best wrestler in WWE AJ Styles sounds off about his alcoholic father in a very similar way to Ronaldo.

Pretty sure psychological consensus is that people with obsessions of perfection project their childhood traumas and try to live a good life, but like all of us they're fallible. The whole thing with sexual abuse is a rabbit hole to be honest.

I was studying this kind of subject a few years ago and found theres ALOT of famous/celebrity profiles with this background or atleast if you put 2 and 2 together you get a similar story. scary and sad subject but yeah it really wouldn't suprise me much either and would explain alot of his behaviours.

I hope its not the case here though, i would rather believe hes just an egotistical tool, wrong of me I know but football is/was supposed to be an escape from this type of misery
 

Stoichkov1

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Google translated a very detailed Beglain article behind a paywall

An American woman accuses football player Cristiano Ronaldo of having ***** her. In Der Spiegel she brings out her story. A statement from Ronaldo partly confirms her side of the story.

It is a legal battle between unequal parties: on the one hand Cristiano Ronaldo, 33, soccer world star. On the other side Kathryn Mayorga, 34, a blank sheet from Las Vegas. Once they crossed their paths: on June 12, 2009 in a nightclub and then in apartment 57306 of the Palms-Hotel in Las Vegas.

The German weekly Der Spiegel reported last year that Mayorga accused the footballer of having ***** her in the penthouse apartment. Although the footballer denies everything and says that it was sex with mutual consent, months later it came to an arrangement between the lawyers of Mayorga and Ronaldo. He paid the woman 375,000 dollars (324,000 euros). In return, the alleged victim gave a written guarantee that she would never speak of the accusations.

She does not want to keep that promise nine years later today. She tells Der Spiegel why she breaks the silence. She also describes how she met Ronaldo, how he would have ***** her, how it came to the settlement and how she suffers from the consequences of that one night in June 2009. "I never ceased to accept him and myself complain. He for what he did and for me because I signed that agreement. "

Mayorga now comes out with her story because her new lawyer, Leslie Mark Stovall, has filed a complaint against Ronaldo.

For months, Stovall, 65, studied the case. "Our complaint aims to have the settlement and the silent contract annulled," says Stovall. "Kathryn was unable to sign such an agreement because of the psychological damage she suffered as a result of the abuse. This makes the contract voidable. '

According to Stovall, Ronaldo's lawyers would have been aware of the psychological state of his client. "They used that for their purposes." The unstable state of Mayorga is also covered in e-mails from Ronaldo's lawyers.

In April of this year, a forensic psychiatrist examined Kathryn Mayorga at the request of Stovall. The professor noted that the woman suffers from post-traumatic stress and depression as' direct and exclusive consequence of sexual violence by Ronaldo '.

Record transfer

The night of the alleged **** starts in the VIP section of the Rain nightclub, in the Palms Casino Resort. Ronaldo is on holiday with his brother-in-law and his nephew. It was the summer when Ronaldo went from Manchester United to Real Madrid for the (then) record transfer amount of 94 million euros.

Kathryn Mayorga is out with a friend that evening, she says to Der Spiegel. Then someone suddenly touches her arm: Ronaldo. "He said something of: you, come with me."

Ronaldo would have laughed at her because she did not follow him right away, she says. Then he would have taken her a drink and introduced her to his entourage. They talked a little and then he would have asked her phone number. "I gave it, then he left. I thought: okay, cool. "

Ronaldo later sent her a text message, says Mayorga. The woman, her friend, Ronaldo and his group met in the lobby of the Palms, after which they went together to the apartment of Ronaldo. Some would have sat down in the jacuzzi. Ronaldo offered her swimming gear, says Mayorga.

Mayorga says she went to a bathroom to change clothes. When she was only wearing shorts, Ronaldo suddenly came in, with his sex out of his pants. "He was standing next to me and wanted me to touch his penis. He begged me: it's only for 30 seconds! I said no. Then he said that I had to put him in the mouth. What an idiot! I laughed and thought: this is a joke. This guy is so famous and he looks so good, but he's a creep. "

Ronaldo would not have left it. "At one point he said something about it: I'll let you go if you give me a kiss. And I said, okay. I kiss you, but I do not touch you. "

Kathryn Mayorga ensures she has only kissed and never touched him. But the kiss would only have made him even more horny. "He touched me everywhere, also from below and he wanted to kiss me everywhere. I pushed him away from me and said no again. "

According to Mayorga, Ronaldo did not give up and pulled her to a bedroom. "I pushed him away again. He has tried to take off my underwear. I then rolled up in a ball and tried to protect my vagina with both hands. Then he jumped on me. "She says she called" no, no, no. " But Ronaldo would have ***** her anally, Kathryn Mayorga claims. Without condom, without lubricant.

Questionnaire

The next day, Mayorga goes to the police and shows them at the University Medical Center. The case was given a reference number that appears later in the settlement between Mayorga and Ronaldo. At the police, Mayorga is silent about the identity of the man who would have ***** her.

She is advised by her lawyer. He advises her not to come out with the story. But Mayorga did not want to leave it for what it is: "I wanted to teach him a lesson. And I wanted him to pay the therapies that I was sure I would need them for. I never wanted to enrich myself. But I wanted to be able to look into his eyes and say what he did to me. "

From documents that the Football Leaks whistleblowing platform has passed on to Der Spiegel, it appears that Mayorga's then lawyer contacted a Ronaldo lawyer in July 2009. In the months that followed, a whole team of lawyers dealt with the accusations. They raise a hundred questions for Ronaldo, his brother-in-law and his nephew.

In that document Ronaldo receives the alias' X. 'Kathryn Mayorga is' Ms. C '.

There are multiple versions of the questionnaire. The questions remain similar, but the answers are not. In a December 2009 version, Ronaldo talks about sex with mutual consent. He also says that he did not receive any signals that she did not agree with sex, or that she felt bad afterwards.

But there is another, older version of the questionnaire. De Standaard has also been able to view that document. That questionnaire was sent by mail in September 2009. The sender is a lawyer from the office of Carlos Osório de Castro, a confidant of Ronaldo. The recipients of the e-mail were Osório de Castro and another colleague.

'No, no, no'

On the question if Ms. C (Mayorga, ed.) Would have raised, shouted or called her voice, replied X (Ronaldo, ed.):

"She said no and stop several times." She would have been lying on her side. "I pushed her past behind. It was brutal. We have not changed the position. 5/7 minutes. She said she did not want it, but she kept herself available. "And further:" She has always said no. "Do not do it. I'm not like the others. "In retrospect, I apologized." But she would not have shouted or called.

Question: Does Ms. C said something about it that the sex would have been too brutal for her? X: 'She did not complain about it being too brutal. She complained that I forced her. She did not say she would go to the police. "

Ronaldo confirms in that version of the questionnaire that Mayorga has said no more than once. And he apologized to her afterwards. There are contradictions about whether Kathryn Mayorga would have satisfied him by hand. He says yes. She says not.

He also describes a foreplay in the bathroom. He also describes the previous acquaintance in the nightclub differently than she does: the women would have asked to be in the VIP section and have drunk a lot. Phone numbers would not have been exchanged. Ronaldo would have invited the women in the club to his hotel.

Kathryn Mayorga, as Ronaldo's group of friends recalls, would not have come across as disgusted when she later came out of the room.

'Police hampered'

The testimony of Ronaldo to his lawyers is an important piece of evidence for Stovall, the new lawyer of Mayorga. The settlement that both parties concluded at the time would, according to him, have the aim of obstructing the police investigation. That's not allowed. There is no doubt that everyone has the right to defend themselves against accusations. But there is a red line: to want to hide a crime is also a crime. '

Kathryn Mayhorga has quit her job because now she says she needs all her strength. She lives in hiding and wants to be unreachable.

Ronaldo was also unreachable. In the past year and a half, Der Spiegel has given him several times the opportunity to give his version of the events of 2009. All attempts led to nothing. 'Any news about this would not be legal', a Ronaldo lawyer reported.

The police have had several contacts with Kathryn Mayorga over the past few weeks and have questioned her again. In Nevada, sexual violence never lapses if it is documented in time by the police.
 

Laplacian

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I really don't believe that. Ronaldo could have any woman he wants and i still think hes gay.

in the feminist (not all wrong) world we live in though, if theres any truth to it, rip his career and Ballon d'or

People, especially men, don't **** women because they're sexually frustrated due to being unable to get with women. Men **** women because it's a form exercising power over someone. Which is why the "but he's so pretty, he's so handsome, he's so rich! he can get anyone he wants!" mentality is bogus, **** (the majority of cases) is about sociopaths getting off controlling others. The fact that she didn't want to is precisely why he did it, and probably enjoyed destroying her sense of agency too.
 
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El Gato

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I hope its not the case here though, i would rather believe hes just an egotistical tool, wrong of me I know but football is/was supposed to be an escape from this type of misery

Can you think of any egotistical tool that would lose to Rio Ferdinand in table tennis and then make it a point to learn table tennis, go back up to him and arrange a rematch with teammates watching just to beat him? The guy treats everything as a contest where he has to prove he’s good. Remember that GIF of him staring at somebody’s boner in training with a certain insecure look written on his face. We all think it’s hilarious, but his insecurities are obvious. After he had a surrogate kid he hooked up with Irina under an obligation of raising his kid properly with a mother, and she no doubt broke up with him because he didn’t want family and more kids with her after which he seems to have felt obliged to prove otherwise by getting the next girl pregnant and, for the lack of a better word, flaunting it on Instagram. Maybe I’m reading far too much into it and I don’t like talking about private matters, but his lifestyle screams of being such a headcase, unique in its manifestation since arguably there’s never been an athlete like him in the world of sport who WILLED himself into being what he is. Isn’t his biography titled “obsession of perfection” or something? Always felt sad for him. And as commendable as his discipline is, I am very very sure he’s got big time demons attached, which fits to the 1% thing in this case.

Scary indeed.
 
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El Gato

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That table tennis story.... wow


What a guy

Tip of the iceberg man.

His genial capacity to process information in order to improve as a person and a professional doesn't just happen with no balancing factors in early life. It had to have been born from deep, deep troubles at home.

I sincerely hope accusations are false, for his and football's sake, but I have little doubt he's not somewhat medically insane.
 
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Luftstalag14

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Not many news outlets have picked this up.

What I don't get it is, this was first reported last year, why (1) there was not much coverage and (2) did the American woman decide to come forward now, basically what has changed since last year? Is she suing Ronaldo now?

The details, if true, are really disturbing. Ronaldo really forced her to have sex with him, if true, which constitutes ****.
 

ASordidGod

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Tip of the iceberg man.

His genial capacity to process information in order to improve as a person and a professional doesn't just happen with no balancing factors in early life. It had to have been born from deep, deep troubles at home.

I sincerely hope accusations are false, for his and football's sake, but I have little doubt he's not somewhat medically insane.

He's a narcissist no doubt, but so are lots of people. Yes he's an extreme case, but to even speculate as to him suffering sexual abuse based on absolutely no evidence, huge stretch. What about Trump for example, similar pathology, would you ascribe his personality disorder to sexual abuse? Don't get me wrong I have no idea either way, but to claim that someone with a narcissistic personality disorder must have been sexually abused because that's the only way it makes sense to YOU, well I'm sorry but that's plain stupid.
 

El Gato

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He's a narcissist no doubt, but so are lots of people. Yes he's an extreme case, but to even speculate as to him suffering sexual abuse based on absolutely no evidence, huge stretch. What about Trump for example, similar pathology, would you ascribe his personality disorder to sexual abuse? Don't get me wrong I have no idea either way, but to claim that someone with a narcissistic personality disorder must have been sexually abused because that's the only way it makes sense to YOU, well I'm sorry but that's plain stupid.

I haven't claimed anything as such. Merely speculating whether he was based on cases of pathology we know he endured and only in the context of the **** accusation being even remotely true.

And no I don't just ascribe personality disorders to prior abuse 1 to 1. Trump was born into money and power, Ronaldo by comparison was born in a Madeira slum. Do you think willful people with uncomparable, never-seen-before levels of discipline who achieve global success seemingly having nothing to start with have done so just because they're born special? Again, I'm going out on a limb, but pretty certain most psychologists would say such mental resilience was conditioned by extreme pain when growing up. 99% of people excelling in one field must have had some form of hardship in their lives. Robin Williams? His legendary comedy was a mask, a facade to cover up how pained the guy was every day. Especially given all the other character traits and the decisions he's made on the way.

It always makes me wonder what Messi's demons are since he's just as disciplined coupled with a great capacity to learn and inane God-given execution talent. Part of why people refuse to fully like Messi is because he's so quiet and nobody knows anything about him bar the obvious things, which makes people wonder what he's hiding. What could be the worst thing he lived through to make him want to be the best ever? Proving those that bullied him at school for being short wrong? :lol:
 
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Givenchy

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I cant imagine the ramifications if this does turn out to be true. surely jail time? as you cant exactly pay this one off as tax avoidance. all of his sponsors will drop him, Juve would have to terminate his contract - 100mil down the drain?, his legacy totally tarnished (especially in the PC/feminist age we live in now, he'd never be forgiven) and then smaller things like FIFA19 FUT.. if he gets removed from the cover and his card gets removed do those who paid 1.7million coins get refunded by EA?

I'll still believe innocent until proven guilty and hopefully for footballs case its nothing
 

FCB1987

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I hope it's not true

I want the next few years to end with him being remembered as an all time great player but clearly inferior to Messi rather than end him with as a pyscho rapist.
 

Luftstalag14

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If it was true, why didn't the media turn up a shitstorm last year though? Why didn't the police investigate it last year?
 
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