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Messi fights for the throne in football, Ronaldo for getting into the top ten for all times.
Only Barca fans think this way. CR is comfortably top-3 of all time.
Messi fights for the throne in football, Ronaldo for getting into the top ten for all times.
Only Barca fans think this way. CR is comfortably top-3 of all time.
Only Barca fans think this way. CR is comfortably top-3 of all time.
Using the logic of some users here, Gerd Müller must be one of the GOAT contenders.
Good to know there can only ever be 3 contenders for a given title.
Never fails to make me smile how easily people find going to this GOAT conversation having witnessed maybe 30 years at most of a continuously evolving sport that existed for at least half a century. Comparisons across decades are so fun to read.
@ te amo . I know lots of non-Barca fans and most don't have him in the top 3. To be top 3 you would have to put him above Messi, Maradona or R9. Which of the 3 would you omit to put him there? ( Can't even believe I am having to ask this on a non Real Madrid / Man Utd forum).
Good to know there can only ever be 3 contenders for a given title.
Never fails to make me smile how easily people find going to this GOAT conversation having witnessed maybe 30 years at most of a continuously evolving sport that existed for at least half a century. Comparisons across decades are so fun to read.
This might be shocking for you, but people have their own GOATS in each generation. Prior to Pelé there were the likes of Di Stéfano (to this day you have people who swear that he is the greatest they have ever watched - at least the old RM generation in Spain) while before Di Stéfano you had the likes of Giuseppe Meazza, Arthur Friedenreich and tons of others.
Good to know there can only ever be 3 contenders for a given title.
Never fails to make me smile how easily people find going to this GOAT conversation having witnessed maybe 30 years at most of a continuously evolving sport that existed for at least half a century. Comparisons across decades are so fun to read.
Not shocking to me at all. Greatest of ALL TIME in each generation? Clue is in the name my dude...
You would be right in saying it depends who you ask. Not what you said though is it?
Anyway it is a silly discussion
We knew this already.
Most coaches, players, former players, pundits, football institutions and respected football publications would place Cristiano comfortably in the top 5. Most fans have also recognized this.
Guess everybody except you "chosen" lot have fallen for the hype and PR machine.
Only a small sect of insecure, petty Barca fans continue to laughably argue CR barely belongs in the top 10 and he is nothing more than another Muller or Inzaghi.
These are the same daft twats that kept arguing Ronaldo was not the most important player on Madrid's CL winning teams because all he did was score tap-ins that any other finisher could do. Modric, Marcelo, Kroos and Carvajal deserved most of the credit for the titles as they created all chances. I cannot tell you how many times I heard even with CR off the team Madrid would have still won most of their CLs. Well, we saw the truth last season.
Now these same blokes expect us to take their word that Ronaldo is only scores because his teammates give him easy tap-ins and how lucky he's been his entire career. Right.
Take the tin-foil hats off and concede you are not privy to any sort of knowledge that the rest of the football world isn't.
Few reason why you lot refuse to judge CR objectively:
1. Messi
2. Former Madrid player
3. His personality/ego
4. Cruyffista that appreciates everything that comes before the goal more
5. Plastic fan circa. 2008 or not knowledgeable enough to understand everything that goes into creating a "tap-in"
6. Appreciates style and jaw-dropping flashy moments over simplicity and monotony
Chances are you fall under one of the boxes above if you're still parroting "CR is barely in the top 10."
After Messi I cannot think of maybe more than one or two other players I would take to build a team around over Cristiano. Many of the more talented players didn't have the longevity, consistency, heath or the same level of impact on the outcome of the match.
Hence why I wrote that there should be different GOAT categories depending on individual talent, impact, success (number of titles won and personal records) as well as position on the pitch.
For instance how are you going to compare the legacy of players like Maldini, Baresi etc. with the likes of C. Ronaldo and Gerd Müller?
Or what about the likes of Xavi and Lothar Matthäus?
Or players who had an insanely high peak but a short one like Ronaldinho and pre-injury Ronaldo.
Or players who won tons of trophies, say Gento, Giggs, D. Alves to mention a few.
Lot's to take into account.
The point being is that most of the lot who rate C. Ronaldo as the GOAT here (not sure if they are trolling or serious) or list him in their top 3, do it due to the goals he has scored. The most famous feature of his. If goals is the most important criteria to determine who is a GOAT or in the contention of it, Gerd Müller and numerous other players should be in the discussion as well as they have even more impressive resumes. As does Messi for that matter despite being 2 years younger and having played significantly fewer games in his football career for club and country.
As for players that I have watched in my lifetime, C. Ronaldo is obviously in the top 3 for me when it comes to offensive players but I find it unbelievable hard to believe that he is superior to some of the widely regarded all-time greats.
All-time greats are mostly judged by individual talent and brilliance. Hence why Di Stéfano is regarded as the all-time great in his generation (1950's) despite Gento winning many more trophies for RM as well as having won the European Championship for Spain while Di Stéfano famously never even played in a World Cup.
Similar with Cruyff vs Gerd Müller.
If that is the barometer, C. Ronaldo does not belong in the top 3 by any stretch of the imagination with all due respect.
Anyway it is a silly discussion as legacies change over time and none of C. Ronaldo or Messi for that matter have ended their careers so the last chapter in their books have not been written yet.
I'm curious who you rate as your top 3. Among those you've watched. Mostly curious about the 3rd since that'd give insight into your criteria.