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[KingLeo10]

It probably depends on his supporting cast tbf. If he was playing for 2016-2018 Madrid, he could probably still be impactful against top teams. Same with Messi and 2009-2012 Barca.

I mean...yeah...but those are all time great supporting casts.

 

[DonAK]

I'm glad he left them for poorly coached (and poor quality) Juventus and United sides. One of the huge advantages he had over Messi was that he played with SAF, Mourinho, Ancelotti, ZZ while Messi had Pep and Lucho and a whole bunch of no names. Teammates wise, both had amazing teammates at stages of their career, but CR7 had a better coaching structure...which as we see matters a lot.

Definitely, and something people constantly overlook.

Coaching does matter a lot.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

with a good coach we would have easily won 2019 the cl....coach is underrated

 

[Rassvet]

with a good coach we would have easily won 2019 the cl....coach is underrated

*If our great coach wasn't let down by our players, we would have won 2019 CL

 

[KingLeo10]

*If our great coach wasn't let down our players, we would have won 2019 CL

United hired a guy from Russia who's not even a manager these days before they hired the great Donverde. Relax

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

*If our great coach wasn't let down by our players, we would have won 2019 CL

nah we had a strong team and were even in first leg crap but messi's individual brilliance has rescued us

 

[Rassvet]

Duncan Castles confirmed EV wasn't interested in the interim role

 

[DonAK]

The great coach whose team collapsed with three goal leads in back to back years.

vs. a Liverpool without multiple key players too.

 

[Rassvet]

nah we had a strong team and were even in first leg crap but messi's individual brilliance has rescued us

how did this strong team do after EV left...

 

[serghei]

The great coach whose team collapsed with three goal leads in back to back years.

vs. a Liverpool without multiple key players too.

Yea, there's always the typical fan who thinks everything is down to the players. Those are the ones who tend to wash EV of all team failures that he frequently pretended don't exist or are overstated (remember his fitness is overrated head-scratcher?).

Would Barca beat Liverpool with the MSN team managed by Valverde? Yeah, too much quality. Would they beat an injury-ridden Liverpool starting Origi and Shaqiri if they were managed by Tuchel in that season instead of EV? Without a doubt.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

how did this strong team do after EV left...

our confidence was away after the anfield story.....

 

[Rassvet]

Every thread can become an EV thread with one post

 

[Morten]

It probably depends on his supporting cast tbf. If he was playing for 2016-2018 Madrid, he could probably still be impactful against top teams. Same with Messi and 2009-2012 Barca.

Don't think so, age simply caught up with him.

He can still do a job against average sides, but i dont expect iconic big match performances anymore.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Every thread can become an EV thread with one post

The magic of EV

 

[Rassvet]

Ronald vs the top three this season: 0 goals, 0 assists, 3 yellow cards. United have scored 0 and conceded 8 with him on the pitch.