Cristiano Ronaldo - v1

Icarium

Lifestealer
I don't have big problem with Ronaldo winning ballon d'or this year. Messi and Ronaldo performed equally imo but Ronaldo won very important trophies. If Argentina won the WC then there would have been a great chance for messi. Neur does not deserve ballon d'or I am completely amazed how he got nominated before Robben. At least he does not cry like Ribery, thank you Neuer you are still the best goalie don't make me hate you. He was just unlucky to be part of messi and Ronaldo generation.

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Morten

Senior Member
He has had his angry outbursts and stuff, but in that area he is not bad. I remember the classicos with Mourinho, almost everyone on the field was fighting at times, but he generally kept out of it.
 

BerkeleyBernie

Senior Member
He has had his angry outbursts and stuff, but in that area he is not bad. I remember the classicos with Mourinho, almost everyone on the field was fighting at times, but he generally kept out of it.

For fights and dirty play, agreed, he is far from the worst. But it's the general tone that he often displays on the field- just comes off like a spoiled 10 year old, very off-putting, and unfortunately, overshadows his talents (for me).
 
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linetty

Guest
If Benzema was the one taking Madrid's penalties, he would have exactly the same number of goals in 2014 as Ronaldo.
 
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linetty

Guest
Converting penalties into goals isn't that easy, as a Barca fan you should know that.
Even if he missed a few, the number would've been pretty similar so...

Also, not counting penaldos, Messi has 3 more goals than Ronaldo in 2014.

Ronaldos best year, Messis worst year. Does that need a comment?
 

MaxY

Devil May Cry
Even if he missed a few, the number would've been pretty similar so...

Also, not counting penaldos, Messi has 3 more goals than Ronaldo in 2014.

Ronaldos best year, Messis worst year. Does that need a comment?

Why would you not count penalties, penalties are a part of the game. And why would you turn a discussion about Benzema & Ronaldo into Messi vs Ronaldo?
 

Morten

Senior Member
Even if he missed a few, the number would've been pretty similar so...

Also, not counting penaldos, Messi has 3 more goals than Ronaldo in 2014.

Ronaldos best year, Messis worst year. Does that need a comment?

For the 100000 time, this is neither Ronaldos best year or Messis worst year, going by the numbers. Last year was Ronaldos best, last year was Messis worse than this. If you look at each year since 2009, there isnt much difference between them statistically other than the freak year by Messi. The trend over this 5 years have been very close in terms of goals, Messi picking up more assist. Now, the best player isnt solely about numbers, but you brought it up. Its also worth noting that Messi have 6 more matches than Ronaldo.
 
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raskolnikov

Well-known member
For the 100000 time, this is neither Ronaldos best year or Messis worst year, going by the numbers. Last year was Ronaldos best, last year was Messis worse than this. If you look at each year since 2009, there isnt much difference between them statistically other than the freak year by Messi. The trend over this 5 years have been very close in terms of goals, Messi picking up more assist. Now, the best player isnt solely about numbers, but you brought it up.

If Ronaldo's stats are slightly better than why is he considered such a clear favourite this time? Invisible yet scores goals, plays no important part in big matches, the team would have won the same finals without him, couldnt help Portugal. So what makes him such a clear favourite besides the third most annoying pr campaign in football history?
Him and Ribery last year being 1/2 by the way.
 

Hamzah

High Definition Member
Madrid fans takes stats so seriously because it means cr will win every year. So if there's the same goals but cr played one less game then automatically it's cr's award? You know how crazy that is?
 

Morten

Senior Member
Madrid fans takes stats so seriously because it means cr will win every year. So if there's the same goals but cr played one less game then automatically it's cr's award? You know how crazy that is?

Its 6 less games, actually. Still better stats, and the team won the trophies. I dont personally think Messi have been worse than Ronaldo this year, since its so close between them(imo) the trophies will be the cutting edge for Ronaldo.
 

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