Haha, almost forgot about Woodgate...Lol, he was bad
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Haha, almost forgot about Woodgate...Lol, he was bad
El Gato
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Wolfe who do you think is the worst transfer in Real history--at least as far as you know/remember? that should give us a benchmark to judge Burger Hazardlol: cheap shot i know) against
Not a cheap shot as he's not been fat since November 2019. Just plain dumb lol
We discussed this already. Would help if you read and reflected on what I wrote before.
I don't think there's one worst transfer ever. Depends on what it is you want to talk about that made it bad. Several things that can make a transfer poor and in most cases comes down to judgement pre-transfer rather than anything that happens after. You have clowns who should have never been bought but somebody in the sporting directorate got high/panicked i.e. Faubert, Pablo Garcia, Gravesen, Lucas Silva. You have players, usually under 25, who may likely bounce off that level and never make it mentally (Drenthe, Sahin, Huntelaar, Cassano, Illarramendi). You have experienced players who seemed a justifiably good idea, but proved to be poor through lack of skill/focus/commitment (Emerson, Owen, Anelka).
Kaka despite health had 2 seasons with ~15 assists and yet was pretty much a waste of time when compared with Ozil. Considering the amount of money spent, he's pretty firmly up there. I would have not bought him. Just like I would have not bought Hazard and definitely not for that amount of money, but for very different reasons.
All things considered the worst transfers are those that bring down the reputation and player has no redeeming quality (compare Faubert vs Lass Diarra), rather than those that made even a slightest bit of sense, but execution, player's tenure in the club and tangible return were poor.
Also why only consider buys and not sales? Why not consider transfers that should have and had a realistic chances of happening but never did? To me the worst transfer still arguably is either selling Makelele, Totti saying no to us, or not replacing Benzema with Lewandowski. If you buy someone and it doesn't work out, you can at least work elsewhere to fix it. The others have proven to be irreparable decisions which you cannot take back.
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Buying Kaka in 2009 was kinda huge though,he was still young and had won the Balon D'Or only 2 years prior. People tend to forget that back then CR7 and Kaka were kinda equals. In fact, I vividly remember some people predicting that Kaka would be more valuable. In retrospect, this take could not be more silly, as Kaka flopped and CR7 became the best player in your history(maybe along Di Stefano), but yeah.
On the other hand, I think that Hazard is as big of a flop as Coutinho.
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They were no doubt some of the best footballers around. I just don't think Kaka was worth the money considering his knee/groin problems were already obvious back at the time of acquisition. Thing is people would call him a flop based only on 70M (today ~2x the amount I imagine) and playing 2 of 4 years at half speed. Well.. I disagree, but that's only cuz I don't care about damage that happened amidst a period of general success.
Overall marketing and prestige the deal helped reinstate kind of makes it worth it.
And if appropriate moves are made to make Hazard less of a highlight in this shit time, it will also be worth it. CR didnt make us competitive alone upon arrival in 2009
Overall marketing and prestige the deal helped reinstate kind of makes it worth it.
And if appropriate moves are made to make Hazard less of a highlight in this shit time, it will also be worth it. CR didnt make us competitive alone upon arrival in 2009
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Nice take. What year did Totti say no to you? Glad he did, lol. Glad also you never got Lewa. Christ.
Notice this, though: you say Kaka is 'up there' among the worst transfers. Yet he had more productive seasons than Hazard has so far--who cost more. Both dealt with chronic injuries as well, though Hazard much more so. Why then not concede that Hazard's transfer hasn't worked out? (Which you basically do when you say you wouldn't have bought him, which you would not say if he had played more consistently and managed more goals and assists).
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Totti was pretty vocal about it, don't think he ever said what year but presumably early to mid noughties - https://www.eurosport.com/football/...ost-joined-real-madrid_sto7204973/story.shtml
There's nothing to notice about Kaka. Hazard didn't really cost more since he go bought in post Neymar world. Unless you count incentives. And the latter is 3 or 4 times more unlucky so no reason to make claims.
+ No, me saying I wouldn't have bought him is nothing to do with goals or assists. Bald fraud pads 20 + 10 each year and it makes no difference. I said several times why I wouldn't have gone for him at the time.
There's nothing to notice about Kaka. Hazard didn't really cost more since he go bought in post Neymar world. Unless you count incentives. And the latter is 3 or 4 times more unlucky so no reason to make claims.
+ No, me saying I wouldn't have bought him is nothing to do with goals or assists. Bald fraud pads 20 + 10 each year and it makes no difference. I said several times why I wouldn't have gone for him at the time.
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Eden "Not a flop" Hazard 
Think he just tried to recline on his La-Z-Boy back home, after a nice, juicy burger and that caused it
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