Eliesse Ben Seghir

[Porque]

Age isn't the problem with him, but he is a left footed right winger whose current scoring output is 6 goals in the season despite playing in one of the best team in the league.
He is a very good player, but not what we need.
Monaco will also ask for a lot, and he shares agency with Frenkie so we won't get any favours.

Wasn't necessarily for us. Just my pets personal preference from the Monaco team.

 

[Total-Football]

Do you see him as LW or AM?

So far he plays both positions in the NT.. sometimes he plays him at the LW sometimes AM. He is still too raw in my opinion to say if he is this or that. But I think he is more of a winger.

 

[ZenI]

I'ver watched a game or two and some YT clips of Seghir, much prefer Noa Lang.

 

[Gazzznigga]

Yes this kid has stood out most times I watched Monaco. And he has been playing for them since 17.

I actually prefer Akliouche, or however you spell it, but he is a bit older.

If he has been playing for Monaco since 17 and now at 20 with no serious club attempting to hijack him + an unavailable market valuation in some online player market websites, you should know he is not worth the look for Barcelona who need impact players to comepte for titles.

 

[draconifire]

If he has been playing for Monaco since 17 and now at 20 with no serious club attempting to hijack him + an unavailable market valuation in some online player market websites, you should know he is not worth the look for Barcelona who need impact players to comepte for titles.

But we already have an impact player in Raphinha.
The position we need an absolute starter next year is ST. But that's not going to happen.

So we need players who can slot in as a backup and do a reliable job at it, while being cheaper.
Think he suits well for that. But there are other players also that I would consider.
But we absolutely don't need an impact player. An impact player will cost a lot while also demanding more playing time and wages. Which we can't afford, especially when we have B'dor worthy player on the same spot.

 

[khaled_a_d]

But we already have an impact player in Raphinha.
The position we need an absolute starter next year is ST. But that's not going to happen.

So we need players who can slot in as a backup and do a reliable job at it, while being cheaper.
Think he suits well for that. But there are other players also that I would consider.
But we absolutely don't need an impact player. An impact player will cost a lot while also demanding more playing time and wages. Which we can't afford, especially when we have B'dor worthy player on the same spot.

He list his starting place after Mika Biereth was signed, and Minamino moving to LW.
This makes it seems like if we buy him, it will be mainly for what we perceive him to be, rather than his current level.
But Monaco will likely to ask a deal for "his potential" rather than him being a rotation player in their squad.
It is a price argument, if you can get him around 30-40M while he is on a good salary, I won't mind it.

 

[Gazzznigga]

But we already have an impact player in Raphinha.
The position we need an absolute starter next year is ST. But that's not going to happen.

So we need players who can slot in as a backup and do a reliable job at it, while being cheaper.
Think he suits well for that. But there are other players also that I would consider.
But we absolutely don't need an impact player. An impact player will cost a lot while also demanding more playing time and wages. Which we can't afford, especially when we have B'dor worthy player on the same spot.

An impact player is the one that gets into a match and can either maintain the same level of play or do so without a huge drop in quality of current squad. Barca right now have a lot of players with a huge gap between the starters and the bench. That is why there have been cries about depth. Spending another 30m/40m on such a type of player is retrogressive even for a bouyant club, talk less of a broke one.

Raphinha is not an impact player. He is a starter!!

 

[Gazzznigga]

He list his starting place after Mika Biereth was signed, and Minamino moving to LW.
This makes it seems like if we buy him, it will be mainly for what we perceive him to be, rather than his current level.
But Monaco will likely to ask a deal for "his potential" rather than him being a rotation player in their squad.
It is a price argument, if you can get him around 30-40M while he is on a good salary, I won't mind it.

You mean a 30/40m for a unproven player of that low quality just to sit on the bench?
You could get a proven Lookman for that price. Why not go for him then

 

[draconifire]

It is a price argument, if you can get him around 30-40M while he is on a good salary, I won't mind it.

Ya 30-40m for a backup player with potential is a good deal. Especially if its a spot we are lacking of depth.
Don't think his potential is all that high. But I think we can easily sell him for around 30m when the time comes.

 

[draconifire]

You mean a 30/40m for a unproven player of that low quality just to sit on the bench?
You could get a proven Lookman for that price. Why not go for him then

If you read my previous posts. I rate Lookman very high, and have him ahead of Nico.
I think Lookman will cost 40M ish, but I have been told he wont be sold for that cheap, and it might be around 60M.
Hence, I feel that for 30-40m, Ben Seghir is good enough.

I dont agree with you that he is not proven. He is a starter in Monaco, which is 3rd in the league. He has played agaisnt the top teams in EU, and has performed alright. If you want a more proven player, you will have to spend more money to get it.
And thats the point.

List me players that should be around 30-40m. And then we can discuss which will be better for us.

 

[khaled_a_d]

You mean a 30/40m for a unproven player of that low quality just to sit on the bench?
You could get a proven Lookman for that price. Why not go for him then

Lookman buyout clause is 55M. I doubt Atlanta let him for less.

Then you have to put salary in equation too, Lookman likely to demand far more. At the end Lookman cost might end up twice the annual one of someone like Eliesse. That is assuming Monaco accept that reasonable price.
If both cost the same, I take Lookman.

Also, we have to then go back to the role argument, like Nico, Lookman might prefer a place where he is sure starter.

 

[jamrock]

I'm getting hippie vibes, pass.

It's Nico or no one else, I might settle for lookman, but he as less upside than Nico, Nico still has a few steps to go in his development and will maintain resale value for years.

This guy, only seen him play against us, but if hippies like him, I immediately dislike him