Ernesto Valverde: An Analysis of his tenure

[serghei]

The problem wasn't removing EV. It's was removing EV and hiring Setien and Koeman, two managers who have only had partially successful managerial careers at lower mid-table clubs.

Barcelona should have sacked EV after Ainfield and bought in someone like Poch or Rodgers who have a proven record of success at the top level on a 2 year contract and let them build the team until the new board was elected.

Instead we got stuck with EV + Setien + Koeman after Liverpool and it's turned out to be disastrous.

It's nice that Koeman is giving young players a chance and allowing the likes of Ansu, Pedri, Aruajo, Dest to become starters here, but he's just so tactically inept that it defeats the purpose.

Setien was only appointed because they had nobody to step in, who would be desperate enough to coach Barca and step in the middle of that shit. He was probably one of the few options left after other names declined to take over midseason.

EV should've been sacked after Copa final. And a better manager should've been brought, as you say.

EV was a good option to get a few last trophies out of the aging stars before they get completely done at a high level. He was never an option to rebuild the side, because he simply doesn't have the skills to do such a difficult job. Neither does Koeman.

Also, as long as EV's path was clear: getting some last years from an aging core of players, money shouldn't have been spent to refresh the side. And we spent a lot of money under Valverde. Hundreds of millions. And now when we do need the money since the rebuild is inevitable, we don't have it.

The whole plan was unclear, muddled, wishy-washy. With conflicting decisions. If you wanna go with the aging core and get some last trophies, fine, but don't go about and sign a lot of young 22 years old players, as if you're really trying to rebuild the side.

 

[Andresito]

The problem wasn't removing EV. It's was removing EV and hiring Setien and Koeman, two managers who have only had partially successful managerial careers at lower mid-table clubs.

Barcelona should have sacked EV after Ainfield and bought in someone like Poch or Rodgers who have a proven record of success at the top level on a 2 year contract and let them build the team until the new board was elected.

Instead we got stuck with EV + Setien + Koeman after Liverpool and it's turned out to be disastrous.

It's nice that Koeman is giving young players a chance and allowing the likes of Ansu, Pedri, Aruajo, Dest to become starters here, but he's just so tactically inept that it defeats the purpose.

Man I've seen too much trolling from Devils to know if he's joking or not.

 

[serghei]

Man I've seen too much trolling from Devils to know if he's joking or not.

He's totally serious. Not sure Rodgers is joke material considering some of our last managers btw...

 

[Andresito]

He's totally serious. Not sure Rodgers is joke material considering some of our last managers btw...

Rodgers would be in the same tier as the others in terms of being out of his depth at a club like Barcelona.

 

[Xaviniesta]

Rodgers would be in the same tier as the others in terms of being out of his depth at a club like Barcelona.

how? he;s managed liverpool who are a big club

 

[serghei]

Rodgers would be in the same tier as the others in terms of being out of his depth at a club like Barcelona.

Liverpool is a big club by any standard, no matter if they were underachieving at the time. I'd say Rodgers is a bit above EV/Koeman. Let's not compare Liverpool, with Bilbao, Espanyol, or Olympiakos.

Hell, even Leicester is a bigger club than those these days.

 

[Horatio]

 

[Birdy]

How you guys are still trying to compare EV with Setien or Koeman is beyond me.
EV stayed 2.5 years. Enough time to pass any judgment from way of playing to way of training to relations with the players, etc.

A proper question would have been instead to compare EV to Lucho or to Pep. Their tenures can in principle be compared.

There is a threshold (of duration) under which one is not legitimized to pass a judgment on a coach.
End of story...

Anything else is just knee-jerk reactions that is more telling about each one's own biases, than having any argumentative validity.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

And people forget what state Valverde left his squad. Barely a professional football club physically.

 

[Messigician]

And people forget what state Valverde left his squad. Barely a professional football club physically.

Looked fine to me.

Were beating teams like prime Liverpool 3-0.

Lost 2 games in 2.5 years in UCL.

Nearly went undefeated with Rakitic Gomes Paulinho Ancient Iniesta and Busquets as his midfielders.

Goatverde

 

[Messigician]

Unironically PSG have made contact with Valverde to become PSG's manager.

The scenes if he destroys us and wins the treble with PSG...

 

[serghei]

Unironically PSG have made contact with Valverde to become PSG's manager.

The scenes if he destroys us and wins the treble with PSG...

Lol.

 

[BarcaOG]

this thread needs to be deleted--its just megissian being a deluded EV fanboy who thinks EV wasnt actually the idiot who is ultimately to blame for our decline on the pitch. this is not a discussion worth having. was he better than setien and koeman? sure. but thats the lowest possible bar. is he at all like lucho and pep? not even close: he doesnt even deserve to be their personal mailman

 

[Messigician]

this thread needs to be deleted--its just megissian being a deluded EV fanboy who thinks EV wasnt actually the idiot who is ultimately to blame for our decline on the pitch. this is not a discussion worth having. was he better than setien and koeman? sure. but thats the lowest possible bar. is he at all like lucho and pep? not even close: he doesnt even deserve to be their personal mailman

Yet you keep coming back now. Don't like it don't click on the thread not hard.

 

[BarcaOG]

Yet you keep coming back now. Don't like it don't click on the thread not hard.

Or you could quit pestering the forum with the nonsense you spew. im sure if you look hard enough you can find EV's representative or something so you can send him your love letters directly.