Ernesto Valverde - V1

MTL_Barca

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Nothing wrong with a small squad, especially with la masia in mind. But small squad means like 18-19 regulars and not 13-14.

Get rid of Paco, Vidal, Gomes, Denis and bring in Alena and 2 quality players and the squad looks way better than now.

That being said it still doesn't matter if Valverde just keeps playing with Suarez, Sergio, Messi, Rakitic, Pique, Alba, Roberto, Umtiti every single game.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Nothing wrong with a small squad, especially with la masia in mind. But small squad means like 18-19 regulars and not 13-14.

Get rid of Paco, Vidal, Gomes, Denis and bring in Alena and 2 quality players and the squad looks way better than now.

That being said it still doesn't matter if Valverde just keeps playing with Suarez, Sergio, Messi, Rakitic, Pique, Alba, Roberto, Umtiti every single game.

By small squad Valverde means 14 players + lethal weapon Gomes.

I think he wants fewer players as subs so that he'd have more room to take a nap on the bench. He could set an alarm clock at min 80 to put in Gomes no worries. Camp Nou is quiet as a corpse most of the time so that should fit right in.
 
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Barcaman

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We are turning to Arsenal if fans are satisfied with getting knocked out by Roma. He will be our wenger

Bullshit. Who the fuck is satisfied with Roma loss??

And no, Valverde will never be our Wenger. He will be lucky if he stays for another year.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
In order for Valverde to become our Wenger, Valverde would have to build up a good legacy with numerous trophies won etc.

Then when things are clearly on the decline, Valverde will have to stubbornly hang onto his position and the board being content with it as they don't want to fire him due to his legacy and are happy with a 4th place finish for the CL even though it's clear its no longer working and his legacy is being tarnished in the process with him hanging onto his position.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Longest tenure for coach in the club is 8 years, 2nd is Rijkaard with 5 years. EV won't be here in July 2019. He is even questionable for next season and if there was a proper candidate to replace him he would have probably told he isn't lasting after this year.
 

Obiaseti

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Wish the board saw the signs early and got the jump on Tuchel. If he stays another season and say we get Griezmann and a good midfielder do you guys think he'll try a more attacking brand of football next season? Don't really know much about him before he came here. Have his previous teams been similar in playstyle over seasons or evolved to become more fluid over time?
 

messi2140

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Griezmann will probably get shoehorned in 4-4-2 playing as a RM who has to trackback , while Suarez will stay upfront. And dembele will probably get his usual 5-10 mins of playing time.
 
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blaug

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Valverde's favorite system is 442. He won't change that no matter who we sign. We will still play this boring defensive football next season even with the likes of Arthur, Griezzmann, etc. It might work in the league , but we won't be anywhere near a CL title
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
A double is fantastic but I could see Valverde getting one more chance after this season.

We are going to spend money again this summer which is a guarantee with Arthur and likely Griezmann, Possibly another CM and a CB. But if he's going to survive here longer he needs to change and quickly. With the money spent and going to spend again there's no excuse for him to stick with the 4-4-2 system any longer.

It's going to come down to how much the squad can bare. He's already had a massive fuck up of epic proportions with the Roma Debacle another like that or even close to it in the CL again he's done no question about it.

Hell that CL debacle is worthy of a sack even if we win the double this season.
 
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MessiCam

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A double is fantastic but I could see Valverde getting one more chance after this season.

We are going to spend money again this summer which is a guarantee with Arthur and likely Griezmann, Possibly another CM and a CB. But if he's going to survive here longer he needs to change and quickly. With the money spent and going to spend again there's no excuse for him to stick with the 4-4-2 system any longer.

It's going to come down to how much the squad can bare. He's already had a massive fuck up of epic proportions with the Roma Debacle another like that or even close to it in the CL again he's done no question about it.

Hell that CL debacle is worthy of a sack even if we win the double this season.
Arthur will not be coming in the summer though. His deal is for the winter market. Further than that he is a young player and Valverde has no clue whatsoever on how to integrate and use them. At Bilbao he was forced to integrate youth because that was club policy.

For the good of the club this guy cannot stay a season longer. It would just be a waste.
 

God Serena

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If Valverde doesn't get replaced this summer we as a club are a total joke. The thought of another season like this makes me want to vomit. We were lucky to advance against Chelsea, just imagine if we get knocked out in the R16 next season...

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I prefer Lucho's back assward way of giving the ball to MSN and praying they win the game, than Valverde's approach of defending any lead we get as if we're lucky to have it and letting everyone who plays us be the unlucky ones not to get the win.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Longest tenure for coach in the club is 8 years, 2nd is Rijkaard with 5 years. EV won't be here in July 2019. He is even questionable for next season and if there was a proper candidate to replace him he would have probably told he isn't lasting after this year.

If EV wins CL and LaLiga next season with similar football, does he stay or not?
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Wish the board saw the signs early and got the jump on Tuchel.
I am wondering where is your superoptimist anticipation about Tuchel-Sarri succeeding at Barcelona based?
Is the beautiful football we saw at times at Dortmund or Napoli enough?

Let me refresh your memory about a couple of things about Tuchel:
Last season he finished twenty points behind the aged Bayern Munich in the 3rd position. Borussia could not even challenge for the league after December, despite the exceptional squad they had (Aubameyang, Dembele, Pulisic, Reus, Weigl etc). They went out of CL by Monaco in the QF. Two years ago they went out in the Europa QF by losing to a clearly inferior team that Liverpool was back then.
Plus, Tuchel could not manage maintaining good relationship with a bunch of his players and was getting into constant fights with his bosses at BD, and that's the reason he got fired.
Does this ring a bell maybe?
(I am also very curious to see, if he takes over PSG, whether he can achieve better than Emery. And of course whether he can tame this crew of super-inflated egoist players)

Sarri, on the same page, plays beautifully, but for the third year in a row, everyone says that Napoli is a serious contender in December, and for the third year in a row his team bottles it enormously when the crucial months of march and april arrive. Third year in a row is not a coincidence. Plus, his team underachieves continuously in Europe.

Maybe, the change of scale, could make both shine as managers, and maybe both can write history at Barcelona. My question is: do we have any evidence that they can be successful at Barca? And the answer is no, the only evidence we have is that they will try to play beautiful football. On the contrary we have some slight evidence that they might fail. And its funny to see all of EV haters putting some blind faith on Sarri and Tuchel, while employing arguments (small club mentality) that can be in an exact similar way argued against Sarri and Tuchel as well.

PS: The very bad thing that Pep did to some of us, is that we fell into the illusion of thinking it's easy to be repeated. To play that beautifully and win that hugely at the same time. Rarely happens in the history of the sport. It will take many decades to grasp how great a coach Pep was
 
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