Ernesto Valverde - V1

Gnidrologist

Senior Member
Ernie should go away whether we win CL or not. If we loose and in a bad manner at that, then it just makes it more rock solid necessity. Current team's success is almost entirely predicated on individual performances of our star players. Besides not presenting any clear tactical acumen, Valverde also fails at player management and is obviously a indecisive cuck. With Lucho we at least knew he is charismatic enough to instill some discipline in team despite not being all that great at tactics. Ernie is just a figurehead and it reflects on non-style we play atm.
 

messi2140

6racies Xavi
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

might I suggest BBZ as rakitic himself.

both croatian after all. :dembele:

How could I forget , thats blashpemy on my part.

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soul24rage

Senior Member
Seriously now, I think Wolfe is right in pointing out some of the flaws of the team. Where he is so wrong is attributing those issues to player quality and squad quality, when in fact they are part of different areas. There are flaws in the team which are affecting this team's performances in the CL later stages. That much is clear and realized by pretty much all serious Barca fans around here, that we have issues that need to be sorted out. Hence the panic when we see Rakitic being played even in meaningless games when we know that Rakitic and Busquets aren't at their peak age anymore and if they also tired and exhausted due to overplaying, than a number of teams will probably beat us mostly on intensity alone.

The quality of the Barca team and players however are evident and proven. So, the role of the manager is to find the issues and correct them so that they don't happen again. Instead, he's repeating some of the errors that he did last year, for example overplaying a group of veterans whose minutes should be much more carefully handled. At the same time, he's underplaying the young players.

Most of our issues on the field in CL show a lack of vision and leadership from the manager, and, implicitly, from the board. If it was a lack of player quality and squad quality we wouldn't be as dominant in Spain for so long. We're basically struggling to find a rival domestically who can keep up with us. This is clearly not the sign of a squad who lacks quality players and it's simply absurd to suggest it is.

he even admitted himself that he doesn't see 2 months ahead. This was also the case with Lucho too playing MSN in the Copa games with no rotation. Incoming the usual burnout and loss of intensity/fighting spirit in March.
 

serghei

Senior Member
he even admitted himself that he doesn't see 2 months ahead. This was also the case with Lucho too playing MSN in the Copa games with no rotation. Incoming the usual burnout and loss of intensity/fighting spirit in March.

This is the sort of stuff you hear all the time from athletes who aren't every confident. They take this approach mainly because they don't want to put too much pressure on themselves. Those are the risks when you appoint managers who aren't proven at the highest level, either as players or as managers. It's no wonder he does well in La Liga but badly in CL. La Liga he knows and is comfortable in it, while CL is still a strange animal for him. I bet he still doesn't understand that preparations for a CL game must be different than preparations for a normal La Liga game. Teams usually give more effort knowing that it's about 2 games, not 38. You can compensate more by working hard in 180 mins than in a whole year.

Regarding what he said, I bet this is the sort of thing Leicester players said when people asked them about the possibility of winning the title back in early spring. 'We're not thinking about that. There are many games left and we're only focusing on the next game. If we'll still be in the conversation until the end we'll talk then'.
 
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Leo_Messi

New member
The team has a 7+ point advantage to RM. The 7th league title in 10 years (talk about dominance) should and must not slip up. Atlético are nowhere near what they once were. It would be completely and utterly unacceptable if they somehow managed to win the league this season.

Winning the next 7 league games (before the difficult game at Ramón Sánchez Pizjuán) and extending our 4-win run should be possible. Getafe away, Eibar at home, Leganés at home, Girona away, Valencia at home, Athletic away and Valladolid at home. That should give us a nice comfortable lead before the incredibly (on paper that is) tough late February and early March period.

Now if Valverde refuses to rotate this squad sufficiently, especially in the Copa del Rey, he should be fired on the spot if this lack of rotation will impact the team's performances in the final months. We have won the CdR 4 times in a row. It's high time to give squad players the necessary playing time. Messi, Suárez, Piqué and Busquets should rest as much as possible. Levante should be defeated with a team of substitutes over 2 legs and with the final leg being played at the Camp Nou. The squad size is above average as well. It should not be a big challenge to make the right rotations this time around.

I will be absolutely furious if I see Valverde go all-in on the Copa del Rey this January and not rotate as much as he should. In particular the seniors should be rotated sufficiently.
 
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soul24rage

Senior Member
The team has a 7+ point advantage to RM. The 7th league title in 10 years (talk about dominance) should and must not slip up. Atlético are nowhere near what they once were. It would be completely and utterly unacceptable if they somehow managed to win the league this season.

Winning the next 7 league games (before the difficult game at Ramón Sánchez Pizjuán) and extending our 4-win run should be possible. Getafe away, Eibar at home, Leganés at home, Girona away, Valencia at home, Athletic away and Valladolid at home. That should give us a nice comfortable lead before the incredibly (on paper that is) tough late February and early March period.

Now if Valverde refuses to rotate this squad sufficiently, especially in the Copa del Rey, he should be fired on the spot if this lack of rotation will impact the team's performances in the final months. We have won the CdR 4 times in a row. It's high time to give squad players the necessary playing time. Messi, Suárez, Piqué and Busquets should rest as much as possible. Levante should be defeated with a team of substitutes over 2 legs and with the final leg being played at the Camp Nou. The squad size is above average as well. It should not be a big challenge to make the right rotations this time around.

I will be absolutely furious if I see Valverde go all-in on the Copa del Rey this January and not rotate as much as he should. In particular the seniors should be rotated sufficiently.

I made peace with myself that he's most likely going to play Rakitic in one half and Busi the other half in the Copa first leg (I would seriously just play Bob in that pivot role with Wague at RB). But if he plays the likes of Messi, Pique and Suarez in that first leg and benches guys like Malcom or Alena, I'm seriously going to lose it.
 

Messigician

Senior Member
In the same interview Pep said that he wishes his players were taller and stronger.

People act like Pep only plays tiny technical players. Excuse me?

He is the same manager who vetoed David Villa and pushed for the " complete player" 6 foot 5 Zlatan.

His midfield of Bayern was composed of Kroos Alonso and Schweinsteiger again huge physical players. He then added Vidal to the mix and had Martinez while failing to develop Thiago.

Let's stop acting like physicality means nothing in sport and football. What makes Virgil so effective is his physique he wouldn't be half as good at 5 foot 8
 

Andresito

Senior Member
Staff member
In the same interview Pep said that he wishes his players were taller and stronger.

People act like Pep only plays tiny technical players. Excuse me?

City bought Mendy and Walker very much thanks to their physique. They even said in the City documentary that Pep wanted physical fullbacks in the Premier League.
So of course Pep values strength as well.

He is the same manager who vetoed David Villa and pushed for the " complete player" 6 foot 5 Zlatan.

Zlatan was a mistake from his side. He thought a physical striker would complete his system but it didn't.
It was his second year as senior coach, he learned from his mistake and moved on.

His midfield of Bayern was composed of Kroos Alonso and Schweinsteiger again huge physical players. He then added Vidal to the mix and had Martinez while failing to develop Thiago.

Weird definition of huge.
Alonso was his anchor and known more for his ball playing qualities rather than being a physical monster. Very much like Busquets.
And I don't agree that he failed to develop Thiago.

What makes Virgil so effective is his physique he wouldn't be half as good at 5 foot 8

Weird thing to say as he's a centre back.
 

George_Costanza

Active member
In the same interview Pep said that he wishes his players were taller and stronger.

Physicality he meant is defense, fullbacks, goalkeeper or even one tall striker. This is the demand of every coach. What he will never prefer is a physically tall and strong player over a technical player in the midfield.

Case: He benched Yaya Toure in Barcelona and City.
 

FCBfan22

Senior Member
It seems that his wet dream can soon become reality...

Barca's starting 11: MATS, Busi, Raki, Messi and 7 CB's.
 

Barcilliant

Senior Member
I doubt he will be here next season. Judging from our transfers it's clear the board are planning for the future. The new cb and Rabiot are both young and we all know Valverde prefers experienced players. I'd be very surprised if he was here next season.
 

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