Ernesto Valverde - V1

Vilarrubi

New member
You said "It would be ideal if he won something and then we part ways". What planet are you from? If he wins something, it will guarantee that he doesn't get the boot and will be here for another season. And he wouldn't just "leave" himself, you think he signed a contract extension just to "part ways" at the end of this season? How does this make sense to you?

No it wouldn’t, Zidane left after winning and his contract ran til 2020.

Those "Internet fans" are the majority of barca fans and the main reason the club can generate this revenue.

Not complaining, can just spot them from a mile off.
 
Last edited:

henias

New member
[MENTION=20930]Messi983[/MENTION] is spot on. No sane fan would ever want us to lose every single trophy that we are currently fighting for (league, CdR and CL) let alone want our greatest rival to win their first triplete in history, just to make a stupid point.

You do realize that it would be 1 billion times more ideal for us to actually win something and eventually part ways with Valverde than suffering from an institutional meltdown while watching our main rival win everything, right?

Embarrassing stuff and this is exactly the kind of attitude that make some of our fans a laughing stock. Mind you, I am as big a fan of Valverde as you are. The club's success should always have first priority regardless of who manages us in any given moment.

But you do realise the more trophies we get, the more EV is going to get most of the credit and the board being dumb enough to extend him even more. The longer EV stays, the more the progress and tranisition of the club into a new era is going to be put into a chokehold.

In any case, realistically speaking we would most likely just get a double again. Madrid might get reinforcements next season so La Liga wouldn't be so one sided. And the same old story repeats itself, and we might struggle even more. The team is gonna be one year older and slower, and we'll see how the team holds up.

Clemente isn't wrong to think for the greater good, because of how stubborn and deleterious EV is.

Also, the same fan (you know which moderator) who hoped for more trophies for EV so he could praise EV all day long, end up with more humiliation in reality and then blame the players for not putting in their effort in crucial stages. And act like all he cares is about La Liga. How ironic.
 

Leo_Messi

New member
You said "It would be ideal if he won something and then we part ways". What planet are you from? If he wins something, it will guarantee that he doesn't get the boot and will be here for another season. And he wouldn't just "leave" himself, you think he signed a contract extension just to "part ways" at the end of this season? How does this make sense to you?

You do realize that I am talking about the current season right? In any case he won't stay here for longer than 1 more season, meaning until the summer of 2020. I rather have (1 billion times more) the team winning everything that it can win (we are in a position to win all 3 trophies this season once again at this point in the season) until the summer of 2019, than us failing spectacularly AND having our main rivals (RM) win a triplete. This should be common logic even for the mentally retarded.

But you do realise the more trophies we get, the more EV is going to get most of the credit and the board being dumb enough to extend him even more. The longer EV stays, the more the progress and tranisition of the club into a new era is going to be put into a chokehold.

In any case, realistically speaking we would most likely just get a double again. Madrid might get reinforcements next season so La Liga wouldn't be so one sided. And the same old story repeats itself, and we might struggle even more. The team is gonna be one year older and slower, and we'll see how the team holds up.

Clemente isn't wrong to think for the greater good, because of how stubborn and deleterious EV is.

Also, the same fan (you know which moderator) who hoped for more trophies for EV so he could praise EV all day long, end up with more humiliation in reality and then blame the players for not putting in their effort in crucial stages. And act like all he cares is about La Liga. How ironic.

There is no way whatsoever that Valverde will be here for the long run. It's 2020 or nothing if that can even do it as this 1 season extension (was an option in his contract) does not guarantee his continuation for the next season provided that we will have a failure of a season this season, which I can understand quite a few of our "fans" prefer.

If Valverde wins the league, one of either the CDR or even the CL, I can live with him continuing for 1 more season until the summer of 2020 unless better options will be available this summer which looks unlikely and is no guarantee. We can only expect so much with this "visionary" board at the helm.

Any "fan" who wishes for us to fail and our main rival to win everything, is not an individual that I can take seriously. Sorry. No need to try to make sense of what that guy wrote. Not going to work with me.

"Fans" who hope we win nothing aren't true fans... usually Internet Barca fans who support a top team in every country or started supporting us after 2009 lol

Although i'm not keen on Valverde I wish more than anything he could win every trophy possible then leave within a year or two... we're still in every competition so lets see how it plays out. Like you said he's renewed for one season, it's not long term.

Absolutely pathetic lot. The sooner they stop being fans the better. 1/2 or at least 1/3 of such "fans" will leave the day Messi retires or moves on. Not that we will ever lack fans, just saying. Good riddance, I say.
 
Last edited:

Givenchy

Senior Member
theres not really many managers available but the timing of this is disgusting, utterly retarded.. like players, you need to keep the manager motivated and on his toes but Barto let him off the hook completely. sums up our problems from board to manager to seniors, everyone is complacent as they know their position is assured

I guess rip Malcoms Barca career and Rakitic will be renewed next
 

Joan

Well-known member
The article says: "FC Barcelona and the first team coach have reached an agreement to extend the contract between the two parties for another season (2019/20) with the option for one more (2020/21)"

In my opinion, a sign that the board hopes Valverde does well enough to warrant the extension. We're in the middle of transition (midfield: Iniesta gone, declining Rakitic's extension pleads, signing guys like Arthur, FdJ, trusting Alena; defense: Lenglet, Todibo, interest in De Ligt, new LB option, Mendy possibly; attack: Dembele, Malcom, search for a Suarez replacement and so on). He's the board's guy to get it done.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
(...) like players, you need to keep the manager motivated and on his toes but Barto let him off the hook completely.

No he doesn't. Minimal expectations don't change, nor do consequences of not meeting the targets. It's either you reach a reasonable CL target (1/4 or 1/2 depending on who you face) minimal while maintaining domestic success, or he is let go, you pay EV's release clause and start anew with... somebody..

Very little has changed. Only motivation money for EV to get Barca to bring in the trophies to balance the books and maybe he stays for another year.
 

Sorin

Well-known member
There goes the hope of entertaining Barca next season. We'll be served with the same dull, give the ball to Messi and hope for the best type of football. Gave up expecting something else after almost 2 years of this.
 

Givenchy

Senior Member
No he doesn't. Minimal expectations don't change, nor do consequences of not meeting the targets. It's either you reach a reasonable CL target (1/4 or 1/2 depending on who you face) minimal while maintaining domestic success, or he is let go, you pay EV's release clause and start anew with... somebody..

Very little has changed. Only motivation money for EV to get Barca to bring in the trophies to balance the books and maybe he stays for another year.

so let me get this straight.. we give him a new, unneeded contract (at this stage) BEFORE the CL crunch time and if he fucks up again, we get to pay a fee in his clause to sack him? :lol: seems like something Barto would do actually, carry on..

literally throwing money away for no reason atall
 

henias

New member
If Valverde wins the league, one of either the CDR or even the CL, I can live with him continuing for 1 more season until the summer of 2020 unless better options will be available this summer which looks unlikely and is no guarantee. We can only expect so much with this "visionary" board at the helm.

Tbh, I cant blame fans turning away from supporting Barcelona, stop going to games or even watching them. No point screaming holier than thou when the people behind the club themselves think they could deceive their fans and I don't feel like arguing who's ultimately right or wrong by the need to be the most positive, loyal, obedient fan.

I would want Valverde to win trophies if the board could see he isn't the long term solution, but as of now, in reality they are as dumb as it can get. Tbh, I not only want EV gone, I want the board gone as well. I honestly do not like the way they are not helping the young players, La Masia, especially when we have the best player in our hands Any short term success will bolster them in this big facade. Hence, only a big setback will allow for massive change, and more people will raise their doubts and awareness be brought into this.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
so let me get this straight.. we give him a new, unneeded contract (at this stage) BEFORE the CL crunch time and if he fucks up again, we get to pay a fee in his clause to sack him? :lol: seems like something Barto would do actually, carry on..

literally throwing money away for no reason atall

Yes, sometimes you absolutely do it before to avoid a slump, particularly when your club coffers are so dependent on success across competitions and you're playing keep-up with the wage ladder. Contracts are rarely given as rewards these days whether we like it or not. Most times they are given as an incentive to perform better. A one off payment for a release clause is usually a normal risk factored into the equation. Plus there is a fair bit of confidence in that you're making achievement progress from last year. Both domestic trophies are quite convincingly there for you, but coach needs assurance he gets something out of it being the swan song and that he doesn't leave without a pay-day if something does go wrong (let's say there are 3-5 injuries affecting performance in any competition).

Seriously, there is barely a case in modern football where a manager just runs down their contract and team performance doesn't take a dip in the final few months of his deal (he was contracted till this summer correct?). Only idealist Pep did this and he did it with teams that were strong enough to walk their way to success. Doesn't happen anywhere else.
 

Home of Barca Fans

Top