Ernesto Valverde - V1

[George_Costanza]

No idea how to say this politely, but your posts give the impression that you are retarded. You may not be, but your posts just give an impression they are written by one.

Also, my reply is big because I have addressed multiple posts and your addressal is less than 20 and even if it is more than 20 its laughable that you give that excuse

Probably getting battered by my arguments blew the wind out of your juvenile ass

Bro, Devils being sarcastic. I find it funny that his over the top sarcasm is fooling most of you.

 

[ini4ever]

Imo if EV delivers the treble we should name the new stadium Camp Nouverde

Good one.

 

[henias]

GOAT [MENTION=16751]Devils[/MENTION]

 

[Horatio]

My bad he said it's more competitive than a decade ago. But still that statement is just plain wrong.

Lol ofcourse it is, with the growth of lower and medium level clubs and being bought by foreign magnates. Better facilities, growing know-how etc.
With more clubs having acces to more money its more difficult for clubs to distinguish themselves/gain advantages over others.

Common sense dictates the trend in football is that everything will become
more level-headed over time.

 

[Andresito]

Could EV worshippers explain why so many people don't like Valverde?

His results so far are there but a lot of people still don't appreciate what he's doing. Why is that do you guys think?
It's mainstream to dislike Valverde. Do people just follow the stream or is there legit something that people want to improve?

 

[Havesaks]

hey crackhead, Maradona as a coach, had a record win% managing Argentina NT, better than Menotti, Carlos Bilardo, and Bielsa, does this "better track-record" makes him better than those legend managers or can he be compared to them?

Hey 4chan-addict, no, but where are you going with this, can hardly see the relevance. You claiming Valverde only plays a small part in our amazing results the last 2 years, is really beyond me. I get why some would oppose to his style and tactics, or even question if he is the right fit to develop our youngsters, but to downplay his influence on our results, thats just silly. Basically in every club he has been at, he has done a really good job result-wise, and in Bilbao he did it over a 5 year period.

 

[Neymessi]

Shall I remind you that this is Pep's third season in charge? Lost to Monaco, Liverpool and Spurs.

QF and SF in 2 years 'comfortably >' 3 QF in 3 years

That you think their squad is the best in the world makes it even worse. Laland.


A few more things.

What you find impressive is subjective. No value in an argument. Furthermore, you keep talking about no competition Valverde faced last season... who did Pep beat to the title last season? 1. Man City 100 points 2. Man Utd 81 point. Mourinho's Man United. Not to mention that you keep ignoring the fact that our last Liga campaign was not a walk in the park, especially not before the match against Atletico.

This has nothing to do with downplaying Pep's successes with Man City, btw.

If you read my post you would have understood that I was talking of EV. Also that was peps first season and they did not have that current squad back then. Also what even are you accomplishing by talking about pep? Pep is way better than Ev ever will be ffs.

And last season wasn't competitive at all. Please. Rm was shit and so was atletico.

Bro, Devils being sarcastic. I find it funny that his over the top sarcasm is fooling most of you.

Fucking hell is this true? I was wondering how someone with 10k posts be so retarded.

Goddamn genius if true. But why he also 'liking' all the similar posts? Method acting?

 

[Horatio]

Could EV worshippers explain why so many people don't like Valverde?

His results so far are there but a lot of people still don't appreciate what he's doing. Why is that do you guys think?
It's mainstream to dislike Valverde. Do people just follow the stream or is there legit something that people want to improve?

I can understand why people don’t like them and I understand all of their complaints. But the same way I understand those people fail to put things into perspective and are looking for instant gratification.

Its a glass half full half empty type of thing. Yes we could be playing a more enjoyable style and have the same good results. We could also equally be playing a more enjoyable style and drop more points or play a less enjoyable style and also drop more points. The results are there, the players seem to respect the coach so I respect that. At the same time I am patient and see what the future holds in terms of playing style with new acquisitions.

I have posted before that a lot of people here opted for differenent coaches (someone else actually listed the names of those coaches recently) and all those coaches seem to be failing with their current project or have been sacked. And no, Barcelona is not a team that could perform on its own without a coach. That some people actually believe that stuff is baffling.

 

[Hamzah]

Ah yes, anyone not agreeing with your viewpoint must be a troll. Also about Pep, that is not an excuse, it was his first season and he had a good squad, easily good enough to beat Monaco.

Either you criticise both managers for failing in cl in first season, or give both a pass, no double standards.

 

[Havesaks]

"And last season wasn't competitive at all. Please. Rm was shit and so was atletico"

You know - The reason for that, was hugely influenced by Valvede/barca. We took so many points from the very start and did so The whole First halfseason that real was trailing behind with a margin. I rember that every cule felt like we already won the leauge by winter break. And so did real probably - thats why they also went all-in for champions leauge. Their motivation was naturally Low because we also were consistenly grabbing points with no form dip or showing any sign of dropping form.

 

[Joan]

If you read my post you would have understood that I was talking of EV. Also that was peps first season and they did not have that current squad back then. Also what even are you accomplishing by talking about pep? Pep is way better than Ev ever will be ffs.

The bits I replied to said things about Pep. That's why I talked about Pep. What do you accomplish? That's your post, directly comparing Pep's City to Valverde's Barca adventure.

And last season wasn't competitive at all. Please. Rm was shit and so was atletico.

Not true. Was competitive until we beat our direct rivals.

How was City's last league campaign competitive? How was it more impressive than Barca's?

 

[Joan]

You know - The reason for that, was hugely influenced by Valvede/barca.

Blasphemy.

 

[Neymessi]

"And last season wasn't competitive at all. Please. Rm was shit and so was atletico"

You know - The reason for that, was hugely influenced by Valvede/barca. We took so many points from the very start and did so The whole First halfseason that real was trailing behind with a margin. I rember that every cule felt like we already won the leauge by winter break. And so did real probably - thats why they also went all-in for champions leauge. Their motivation was naturally Low because we also were consistenly grabbing points with no form dip or showing any sign of dropping form.

That would have been right if they became progressively shit as we increased the margin whereas they were super shite at the very start. Became normal level shite slowly and almost stayed like that till the end of the season.

 

[Neymessi]

The bits I replied to said things about Pep. That's why I talked about Pep. What do you accomplish? That's your post, directly comparing Pep's City to Valverde's Barca adventure.


Not true. Was competitive until we beat our direct rivals.

How was City's last league campaign competitive? How was it more impressive than Barca's?

No, my post never 'originally' compared pep's city to ev's Barca, there were users who got defensive when I said city has the best squad which isn't outrageous and could be considered an opinion and then replied with how he hasn't done a lot compared to ev to which I then compared us to them that it's not like EV is doing gods work with us and pep is making them worse and worse.

Also if you think city's squad isn't the best (which is totally fine by me as it is subjective), where do you think it ranks?

For starters, City played 2x less boring football than us. You can be at a high margin from 2nd placed team either by being really good or you could be because of your rivals being mediocre and you grinding out wins by being boring and relying on individual performances. Guess which one was which?

 

[Joan]

No, my post never 'originally' compared pep's city to ev's Barca, there were users who got defensive when I said city has the best squad which isn't outrageous and could be considered an opinion and then replied with how he hasn't done a lot compared to ev to which I then compared us to them that it's not like EV is doing gods work with us and pep is making them worse and worse.

What post are you talking about? I quoted your reply to Devils' post. Which compared certain aspects of Pep's City to Valverde's Barca job.

For starters, City played 2x less boring football than us. You can be at a high margin from 2nd placed team either by being really good or you could be because of your rivals being mediocre and you grinding out wins by being boring and relying on individual performances. Guess which one was which?

City's rivals were as mediocre or worse last season.

I don't agree we were boring, but that has to do with personal preferences. Pep's City plays entertaining football.