Ernesto Valverde

El Gato

Villarato!
Aren't you the club that fired 2 coaches last season both in the wake of Barcelona hammering RM?

:lol::lol:

Little to do with Clasico scores themselves. Solari would have most likely stayed for a good while had it not been for Ajax home loss all until Perez got convinced by a new plan. And Lopetegui could have been fired any amount of fixtures after the Clasico if he'd not lost. The club let him play it to try and save himself after he cocked it up with a big fat goal drought. Even Benitez was allowed to coach for 2 months after the 4-0. Real don't really care about such individual scores in Liga these days, unless they're a symptom of larger stagnancy. CL though? Different story.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Little to do with Clasico scores themselves. Solari would have most likely stayed for a good while had it not been for Ajax home loss all until Perez got convinced by a new plan. And Lopetegui could have been fired any amount of fixtures after the Clasico if he'd not lost. The club let him play it to try and save himself after he cocked it up with a big fat goal drought. Even Benitez was allowed to coach for 2 months after the 4-0. Real don't really care about such individual scores in Liga these days, unless they're a symptom of larger stagnancy. CL though? Different story.

Interesting rationalizations but I can't help think the timing of the firings speak otherwise.

All I know is RM changed managers twice in one season. Once after the 5-1 loss to Barca and another after getting beaten twice in one week at the Bernabeu.

The whole RM don't care about domestic competitions narrative is sort of blown apart by your team's celebrations in 2012 and 2017 when they actually managed to win the league.

It's the same deluded thinking some Barca fans have that we don't care about CL competitions. Every historic club cares about every major competition. Some more than others but you tend to write off domestic competition as inconsequential.
 
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DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Forget the La Liga trophies, those guys celebrated a Copa del Rey like they won the CL. Full parade and everything.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
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Going to make these standard issue responses when ole Wolfe tries to push his narrative again.

Another couple barren years in Europe and you guys will be throwing parades for Supercopas and CDRs again.

:lol:
 

FCBfan22

Senior Member
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Going to make these standard issue responses when ole Wolfe tries to push his narrative again.

Another couple barren years in Europe and you guys will be throwing parades for Supercopas and CDRs again.

:lol:

Could at least added Ramos throwing Copa under the bus :D
 

El Gato

Villarato!
All I know is RM changed managers twice in one season. Once after the 5-1 loss to Barca and another after getting beaten twice in one week at the Bernabeu.

The whole RM don't care about domestic competitions narrative is sort of blown apart by your team's celebrations in 2012 and 2017 when they actually managed to win the league.

It's the same deluded thinking some Barca fans have that we don't care about CL competitions. Every historic club cares about every major competition. Some more than others but you tend to write off domestic competition as inconsequential.

Can we talk like adults? Why pick only the Barcelona result while disregarding manager performance otherwise? What narrative are you chatting about lad? Can you provide me some kind of quote where I said they didn't care about domestic competitions with respect to that season?

[MENTION=15376]DonAK[/MENTION]
Lol it's what happens when you don't win it for 20 years. They care so much that they let Ramos hold and drop the cup under the bus anyway.

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You do know the latter two photos are from Liga parades?
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Why pick only the Barcelona result while disregarding manager performance otherwise?

Why pick only the Atletico result and talk about embarrassment on Spanish turf as the catalyst for EV's removal while ignoring 2 years of substandard performance otherwise?
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Why pick only the Atletico result and talk about embarrassment on Spanish turf as the catalyst for EV's removal while ignoring 2 years of substandard performance otherwise?

Don't know. Ask your board. Real board's thinking is clear on the matter, your lot's is not. Hence why also you get the news Pique is on the phone to Xavi with Abidal today, not any other day. These players care about the home turf and their moods drive decisions, more so than the European results do.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Real board's thinking is clear on the matter, your lot's is not.

According to you. This is the problem. You act condescending 90% of the time and can't stand any criticism of RM in any facet (factual or trolling) on a Barca board.

I could point you towards RM's consecutive 75 point Liga seasons and you'd rationalize it somehow. I could point you towards RM's inability to beat Barca in LL even under this incompetent board and EV's regime.

I could point you towards RM falling off a cliff in Europe since 2018 and you'd rationalize it somehow.

I could point you towards Hazard being a total bum so far and you'd rationalize it somehow.

There's more evidence pointing to RM's board being average rather than good lately. We have a more incompetent board. No one denies that. I suggest you learn how to take your Ls when they're warranted like everyone else does. Till then, you're in the petulant BBZ category.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
I'm meant to take an L from somebody thinking Hazard has been a total bum :lol: Watch some games mate.

Take a walk dude, cool off. I know everything with a RM label winds you up, stops you from thinking and directs you towards some completely useless conclusions i.e. "2 managers were sacked because of Barcelona results" when one of them was sacked after the Ajax loss. And we fell of a cliff because we lost one game having won and looked OK away :lol:

Jesus.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
I'm meant to take an L from somebody thinking Hazard has been a total bum :lol: Watch some games mate.

He's played 13 games and scored 1 goal or thereabouts. Do you now think those dribbles won you the CL's instead of CR7's and Ramos' goals? For a 100 M marquee signing, that is a terrible return.

Hold this,

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:lol::lol:
 

El Gato

Villarato!
His form was very good in October/November period. Poor in September/October. But I know we both know you know this. Top notch trolling though dude.

Keep the L. You need it more.
 

Porque

Senior Member
So if the SuperCopa was played in Summer, we might of actually got rid of Valverde before the start of the season then?
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
His form was very good in October/November period. Poor in September/October. But I know we both know you know this. Top notch trolling though dude.

Keep the L. You need it more.

Let's see. Should I believe production figures or a RM fan's subjective assessment of a RM player's form.

Tough one. I think Perez probably wanted more than 1 goal in half a season from his 100 M signing.

:lol::lol:

EDIT: Dembele has the same amount of goals this season as hazard in less games.

LMAO.
 
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